Problems with this game.

#11DegalonPosted 12/31/2012 8:12:49 PM
Chagen46 posted...
Degalon posted...
Edwin Lim posted...
Like a lot of things in life, they get easier with practice. I used to avoid playing on anything above C class when I started out. Now, I can easily come in 1st on S class without too much trouble.

Really, the key to this game is to practice the tracks to death. You need to know each and every corner that is coming up, when to drift and when to boost.

I actually liked it that Sega made it this way. For once, you do actually need skill to unlock things. This game makes you work for it, unlike so many games out there that baby-feeds the player.

As for the flight controls glitching up, I never once had it happened so I cannot comment on that.

However, there are some game breaking bugs, such as the All-Star bug. Sometimes when you perform an All-Star and you happen to get past the transformation ring which changes your vehicle type, the game will sometimes glitch up and you will remain the vehicle type before you performed the All-Star. So, if you were a boat and you do an All-Star and your All-Star ends at a car section, there is a chance you will remain a boat and will be stuck, unable to move around.


Thats a nice sentiment...for an adult gamer.

What about people playing casually, or kids? Aka, the majority of people who would buy this game?


THIS GAME IS NOT INTENDED FOR KIDS DAMMIT

It's intended for SEGA nerds, you know, adults.


WRONG! As with the first one, this is intended as a family-friendly game. The references are just a bonus.
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#12Ray_MK_IIIPosted 12/31/2012 8:33:45 PM(edited)
TBQH, kids are likely to have the free time and the energy to do all of these challenges on at least A Class difficulty eventually. Casual gamers, on the other hand, should be able to make do with the oodles of mods for the starter characters that already give you plenty of options. Anyone who is dying to play as a specific Sega character or use a specific stat loadout for doing time trials or smoking racers online is probably hardcore enough to do everything on S Class anyway.
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Anyone in-between can do all challenges on B and still get all but 3 characters and several Console Mods.
#13ValkyrieXVIIIPosted 12/31/2012 8:58:59 PM
I can't help but feel that using the whole "Kids game" "Casual Gamer" argument to be nothing more than a excuse for being bad a particular game. No matter what game I see people complaining about difficult on these two arguments are always thrown in peoples faces. This game is by no means difficult, I'd say its a heck of a lot easier than Mario Kart's Catch up mechanics which they have implemented in nearly if not all Mario Kart games.

Unlike Mario I don't believe Sonic is associated with being kids games or always being easy so every now and then when a Sonic game comes out that us more competitive players or challenge seeking comes along you "Kid gamers" or "Casual Gamers" feel the need to cry and moan about it.

Every character in this game can be obtained through playing hard, I think only Eggman needs to be done playing Expert, not sure about that one. The only thing you need to do expert for is to unlock a few Console mods so suck it up.
#14FredCat07Posted 1/1/2013 9:21:07 AM
megasoniczxx posted...
Degalon posted...
For the record, this game was already doing the vehicle changing before MarioKart7, MKart7 just came out first.


added to the fact that this game plays absolutely nothing like Mk7


Second'd, MK7 only used a Kart with glider and underwater breather equipped on. This game's card is like "Transformer", changed from one vehicle into the other vehicle when passed the circle.
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#15megasoniczxxPosted 1/1/2013 9:58:54 AM
ValkyrieXVIII posted...
I can't help but feel that using the whole "Kids game" "Casual Gamer" argument to be nothing more than a excuse for being bad a particular game. No matter what game I see people complaining about difficult on these two arguments are always thrown in peoples faces. This game is by no means difficult, I'd say its a heck of a lot easier than Mario Kart's Catch up mechanics which they have implemented in nearly if not all Mario Kart games.

Unlike Mario I don't believe Sonic is associated with being kids games or always being easy so every now and then when a Sonic game comes out that us more competitive players or challenge seeking comes along you "Kid gamers" or "Casual Gamers" feel the need to cry and moan about it.

Every character in this game can be obtained through playing hard, I think only Eggman needs to be done playing Expert, not sure about that one. The only thing you need to do expert for is to unlock a few Console mods so suck it up.


actually all you need to do is play through all GP's on any difficulty to get eggman from what ive heard.
#16HakuPosted 1/1/2013 5:38:06 PM(edited)
Degalon posted...
Chagen46 posted...
Degalon posted...
Edwin Lim posted...
Like a lot of things in life, they get easier with practice. I used to avoid playing on anything above C class when I started out. Now, I can easily come in 1st on S class without too much trouble.

Really, the key to this game is to practice the tracks to death. You need to know each and every corner that is coming up, when to drift and when to boost.

I actually liked it that Sega made it this way. For once, you do actually need skill to unlock things. This game makes you work for it, unlike so many games out there that baby-feeds the player.

As for the flight controls glitching up, I never once had it happened so I cannot comment on that.

However, there are some game breaking bugs, such as the All-Star bug. Sometimes when you perform an All-Star and you happen to get past the transformation ring which changes your vehicle type, the game will sometimes glitch up and you will remain the vehicle type before you performed the All-Star. So, if you were a boat and you do an All-Star and your All-Star ends at a car section, there is a chance you will remain a boat and will be stuck, unable to move around.


Thats a nice sentiment...for an adult gamer.

What about people playing casually, or kids? Aka, the majority of people who would buy this game?


THIS GAME IS NOT INTENDED FOR KIDS DAMMIT

It's intended for SEGA nerds, you know, adults.


WRONG! As with the first one, this is intended as a family-friendly game. The references are just a bonus.


No. Developer said so themselves.

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-13196-Sonic---All-Stars-Racing-Transformed-Interview---Whizzing-Around-With-Lead-Designer-Gareth-Wilson.html

The game is presented in this bright, kid-friendly way, but much of the content - the characters and the tracks - will appeal mostly to those of us who remember the originals. Who is the game for?

Itís a really fine market to go for. So when I was making PGR, the market was easy to identify, itís a hardcore sim. I know my audience, itís men, young men up until mid-30s, who like cars. Itís car porn. Itís being cool in a car.

This is different because weíre trying to do this dual audience because we want to capture the kids, but we also want to capture these hardcore SEGA fans who probably the geekiest of geeks. So you get this weird dichotomy of design, which is fine, itís ok. What weíve really worked hard on is, this is a game that weíve built for ourselves, weíve not made it for children. You can play it as a child because you can pop it on Easy, but All-Star difficulty is ******* hard. Iíve tuned it like a Platinum medal in PGR. Even I canít do it very well, it takes me about seven or eight goes to get it right.

So thereís a broad range of difficulties for different types of gamers. the C Class is for casual gamers who donít play very much, B Class is for most people, A Class is pushing on to become a little bit harder and All-Star Class is ******* hard. Really, really, really hard.



"weíve not made it for children" & "you can play it as a child because you can pop it on Easy" there you go. Kids play on easy.
#17ValkyrieXVIIIPosted 1/1/2013 6:22:59 PM
Thank you for backing up what I meant to say, people will ALWAYS use "Kid Gamers" or "Casual Gamer" argument as a excuse for being lack luster at a particular game. Just look at the characters.

Shadow - Not Associated as a kid friendly character.
BD Joe
Musashi
Danica Patrick
AGES
Beat
Gum
Gilius
Vyse
Pudding
Ulala
Nights - Arguably looks like a metrosexual male.

Look on the back label this game was intended to have animated blood in it, although it appears to have been taken out of the final product.
#18DarkAdonis123Posted 1/5/2013 4:39:18 PM
Chagen46 posted...
Degalon posted...
Edwin Lim posted...
Like a lot of things in life, they get easier with practice. I used to avoid playing on anything above C class when I started out. Now, I can easily come in 1st on S class without too much trouble.

Really, the key to this game is to practice the tracks to death. You need to know each and every corner that is coming up, when to drift and when to boost.

I actually liked it that Sega made it this way. For once, you do actually need skill to unlock things. This game makes you work for it, unlike so many games out there that baby-feeds the player.

As for the flight controls glitching up, I never once had it happened so I cannot comment on that.

However, there are some game breaking bugs, such as the All-Star bug. Sometimes when you perform an All-Star and you happen to get past the transformation ring which changes your vehicle type, the game will sometimes glitch up and you will remain the vehicle type before you performed the All-Star. So, if you were a boat and you do an All-Star and your All-Star ends at a car section, there is a chance you will remain a boat and will be stuck, unable to move around.


Thats a nice sentiment...for an adult gamer.

What about people playing casually, or kids? Aka, the majority of people who would buy this game?


THIS GAME IS NOT INTENDED FOR KIDS DAMMIT

It's intended for SEGA nerds, you know, adults.


It's marketed as a family game. Who you think it's intended for really doesn't matter.
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#19ValkyrieXVIIIPosted 1/5/2013 5:15:08 PM
How is it marketed as a family friendly game? The game was intended to have blood in it ! And no its not what we think its what we know.
#20DarkAdonis123Posted 1/5/2013 5:21:33 PM
ValkyrieXVIII posted...
How is it marketed as a family friendly game? The game was intended to have blood in it ! And no its not what we think its what we know.


A sonic kart racing game with blood? Link please.
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