Silver17 posted...Alright - I'm just an average white male, but IW did the right thing here by removing that out of the game. I really don't care what religion you follow (or don't follow for that matter) - IT'S NEVER OK to dump on other religions.
This is the most ignorant thing I've ever read on gamefaqs, congratulations thunder.
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How does it feel america to be at the mercy of muslims and their god, anything they say is final and you guys take it up the ass all the time
This is so stupid. WHY NOT JUST REMOVE THE POSTER? -Or whatever it is that was "insulting." I really liked Favela, plus I am Brazilian so it made it a slight bit more awesome to play on one of my country's CoD maps. Sure, it was a little degrading (because Brazil is not a s*** hole as portrayed in the map) but it still didn't bother me.
But no, a damn image over a toilet is too much for people. Wow. Just, wow.
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I'm as non-theist as they come (call me atheist, agnostic atheist, whatever. I'm trying to not to define myself with what I'm not in the same way I don't define myself as an a-racist either) and this made me cringe.
You didn't "blow my mind" -- well that's false -- you DID blow my mind, but it was because I was taken aback by how tactless you were about your delivery. Sure, religion makes people do silly things like hate on homosexuals, become terrorists, hate another individual for not liking the same religion, etc. But to insinuate that people aren't free thinkers because they rely on religion as a stepping stone is absurd.
Personally, I've known plenty of people who have used religion as a basis to become enlightened. On the other hand, I definitely know a handful of people who are dead set on their beliefs. I have a coworker who constantly asks me if I think Jesus accepts me and/or if I have "the right" to get into Heaven. And, I honestly don't know. What do I tell these people? I don't tell them, "OH STOP BELIEVING YOUR FAIRY TALE." because that's obnoxious and rude.
I'll completely contradict myself here, but I do believe that you need to pick and choose what you believe in and you also have to sort out what isn't true for you as well. If the topic of "religion" pops up, I'm usually open minded and I'll bring out the popcorn once the hardcore Christians start to uphold their views. What's so great about being open minded like this? I truly don't give a damn because my beliefs are constantly morphing.
Once you tear down the foundations of your argument; you essentially see that you're saying, "People who believe in "x" religion are stupid and close-minded. Instead of embracing the logical consistencies of "x" religion, I'll ignore them and rectify my statements by perpetuating an ad hominem argument." Basically, you've effectively created an argument based on fallacies.
I'm quoting Faust because I whole-heartily agree. Most arguments are lost the minute you start spouting insults. I've seen it happen here many times. To relate it to a topic that most of us are familiar with, I've been marked as a 'troll" here by a certain user because I constantly defend Battlefield 3. Once the argument starts to solidify and the debate truly starts to begin, said user will admit defeat by flinging silly insults such as "EA employee" and "Battlefail 3" at my arguments. The effects of said insults can be seen in the topics we've "debated" in. Many users who are able to see my point of view [whether they agree or not] will draw attention to the silly insults and call out the user.
tl;dr - You can win people over by speaking without insults. Give it a try.
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Religion deserves to be insulted, all it does is control people's lives and create war.
I bet you can't even name a war in the past few centuries that started purely because of religion.
I'm by all rights an atheist, can you stop making me feel like I have to defend religion? It's not something I should be doing.
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Are you kidding me? Religion has fuelled many wars, isn't this common knowledge?
And the way you're defending religion doesn't make you seem atheist at all, just sayin
Religion doesn't cause wars. Human stupidity does.
All's fair in love and war, kid.
Religion doesn't cause wars. Human stupidity does.
The desire for power and control causes most conflict in the world. Name any war over religion / race / territory / ideology, at it's route was over power and control.
People want to be dominant. They want everyone on their side because it breeds strength.
Short answer. People fights because they are asses and will look for a reason to kill each other with or without religion. It's a dark aspect of human nature.
I respect the atheists here (though I'm a Universalist Chistian Anarchist ala Leo Tolstoy but I can't stand angstheists who need too piss and moan at the very mention of religious beliefs and make extremely broad strokes about the dangers of the destructive minorities.
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As suspected, this thread has degenerated into usual religion and politics debate.
But seriously, why the hell didn't they simply remove that frame? They're probably too busy making another garbage MW game, so they just removed the whole map instead of finding that picture in the code or whatever.