Is the confederate flag reportable?

#41Smith7500Posted 11/19/2012 10:40:43 AM
The war was over slavery.
#42_Xymemaru_V(Topic Creator)Posted 11/19/2012 10:42:38 AM
TutelarSword posted...
_Xymemaru_V posted...
It's amazing how so many people are talking about freedom with the confederate flag but reporting the nazi flag is A-OK.


I didn't say that. I said both can be offensive or not, depending on how you look at it.


I didn't target you. A lot of people are saying "why would you report" and "Get over it" but if I were to make the same topic but say Nazi symbol I doubt the comments would be so accepting
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#43_Xymemaru_V(Topic Creator)Posted 11/19/2012 10:43:41 AM
Smith7500 posted...
The war was over slavery.


This. People want to go ahead and say it was about state rights. It was. The states rights TO OWN SLAVES
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#44embittererPosted 11/19/2012 10:44:31 AM
_Xymemaru_V posted...
embitterer posted...
OleDirtyD posted...
Do you remember a few years back that was an "actual" debate about this for a state? it was ruled by the federal government that it was not wrong(unlawful) to have the confederate flag on their state flag. It was a major issue that millions in the country got involved in.


I remember this. Perhaps these kids should look into educating themselves before playing video games. Of course, most of their parents are lazy unemployed ne'er-do-wells that are living off entitlements. So really, can you blame them for being as dumb as the dumb hicks who they're attacking? No.


you voted romney didn't you?


No, I didn't. I don't vote. The rest of my family are pro-Obama, and I am pro-self. That is, however, the exact response I expected from you. As I said, you clearly do not understand the rhetoric that is spewing from your fingers. Just because you find something offensive, does not mean it is. The confederate flag means nothing to me, but it means a great deal to many people, and for you to soil it with ignorance is by far more offensive than any secondary meaning it might have.
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#45Cactus11Posted 11/19/2012 10:48:21 AM(edited)
_Xymemaru_V posted...
It's amazing how so many people are talking about freedom with the confederate flag but reporting the nazi flag is A-OK.


It's because you don't understand your history. Let me give you a quote by Abraham Lincoln during the Lincoln/Douglas debates in 1858

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, [applause] that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, not to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will for ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality."

You are made to believe, however, that this man fought solely for the rights of blacks and the south fought solely for the rights to slavery. It's only that simple if you've done zero research outside of the average k-12 education. Do you honestly think the federal government, who is largely lording over education, wants children in various states to learn that states have a lot of power? That many in the south fought for the rights of states to be self-determinate as the 10th amendment describes?

Here's another quote by Lincoln about his emancipation proclamation:

"My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union."

If you can't understand the complexity, then please don't speculate on it.

Edit: In other words, Lincoln himself understood that slavery was part of the picture but not the whole picture. He knew, though, that using it as a battle cry would achieve what he wanted to achieve. And, astoundingly, people still believe it was all about slavery these many years later. It is truly remarkable.
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#46_Xymemaru_V(Topic Creator)Posted 11/19/2012 10:49:32 AM
embitterer posted...
_Xymemaru_V posted...
embitterer posted...
OleDirtyD posted...
Do you remember a few years back that was an "actual" debate about this for a state? it was ruled by the federal government that it was not wrong(unlawful) to have the confederate flag on their state flag. It was a major issue that millions in the country got involved in.


I remember this. Perhaps these kids should look into educating themselves before playing video games. Of course, most of their parents are lazy unemployed ne'er-do-wells that are living off entitlements. So really, can you blame them for being as dumb as the dumb hicks who they're attacking? No.


you voted romney didn't you?


No, I didn't. I don't vote. The rest of my family are pro-Obama, and I am pro-self. That is, however, the exact response I expected from you. As I said, you clearly do not understand the rhetoric that is spewing from your fingers. Just because you find something offensive, does not mean it is. The confederate flag means nothing to me, but it means a great deal to many people, and for you to soil it with ignorance is by far more offensive than any secondary meaning it might have.


And there's people out there who don't find the Nazi symbol offensive as proof of there being a LOT out there. TBH I don't find the Nazi symbol offensive but it still is considered by many to be and thus is reportable. Confederate flag is in the same boat. And you accuse me to soiling it with ignoreance but that you're doing is trying to white wash it making seem 100% innocent in all this
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#47dxb020100Posted 11/19/2012 10:50:07 AM
Reporting someone to be a dick is one thing, but actually being offended in a video game...you need to check your political correctness at the door, bro and man-up. Some of you people act like you don't watch anything over a PG rating.
#48_Xymemaru_V(Topic Creator)Posted 11/19/2012 10:51:19 AM
Cactus11 posted...
_Xymemaru_V posted...
It's amazing how so many people are talking about freedom with the confederate flag but reporting the nazi flag is A-OK.


It's because you don't understand your history.


I love how you people say anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't know their history. I do know the history, that doesn't mean it's affiliation doesn't bother me.
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#49_Xymemaru_V(Topic Creator)Posted 11/19/2012 10:53:09 AM
dxb020100 posted...
Reporting someone to be a dick is one thing, but actually being offended in a video game...you need to check your political correctness at the door, bro and man-up. Some of you people act like you don't watch anything over a PG rating.


Hey if Tryearch is going to police the game for offensive images, that the gate THEY opened. You wanna talk about that? Talk to Tryearch. I'm just using the rules that have been made
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#50BDJaycePosted 11/19/2012 10:55:06 AM
The "Confederate Flag" was my school symbol. We called ourselves the "Rebels". Nobody at my school was racist so I don't see how it would be reportable. To each their own I guess.
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