Shotguns will never be decent again, they reached its peak in MW2 / rant
you don't know how to navigate through maps if you think shotguns need to be secondaries.
Speak for yourself on flanking. I do it all the time with my S12 and that thing has horrible range. Honestly, you need to get better with shotguns and learn the maps better.
I see people running and gunning with shotguns often in FFA, TDM, Dom, and doing pretty well. I agree the M1216 can be a joke but the other shotguns do work. If your complaining about that it needs to be a secondary because your at a disadvantage, then yeah you ain't doing it right. You always need to be running and gunning and take the best routes for it on the map. It's not the best weapon to use for every map but every map has a large amount of cover to go by.
Black Ops 1 turned shotguns into primaries and featured nothing but garbage like shotguns that were a hitmarker feast in combination with the horrible hit detection and lag of that terrible game, with the Olimpia being the only barely usable against really unaware enemies.
My Stakeout in BO1 has 20 000+ kills and Remington in BO2 has 3 000 kills so far...
If you're saying that shotguns are garbage i'm scared to imagine what would happen if they weren't.
The thing about Mw2 shotguns were they were all good about something and secondaries. After that they nerfed them both in effectiveness and putting them back as primaries.
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Shotguns shouldn't be secondary.
Cod4 didn't have a problem with it.
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They reached beyond their peak in MW2.
PS - I was not aware MSGs in BO2 could OHKO at close range.
fatclemenza posted...From: Cosmic_Coyote | #001Also Shotguns should be SECONDARY weapons...
this whole topic is about you crying. Shut up TC.
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It wasnīt a logic decision, you should either get:
-Nerfed post MW2 shotguns as secondaries
-MW2 Shotguns at itīs finest as Primaries
but what we shouldnīt allow is:
-Get Nerfed as hell Shotguns as freaking Primaries.... is not balanced
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I have some serious hit detection issues with shotguns in this game... It seems random at times when they will work... And shotguns should have range options... That's what rifled slugs are for... I liked the option to have shotgun slugs in games like bad company 2... The shotguns in rainbow six Vegas 2 are a perfect example of what shotguns should behave like.
Theres a shotgun for slugs. Its called the KSG.
@TC the KSG is your long range shotgun. Pick a close range shotgun, use overkill, pick the KSG in your secondary, BAM your shotguns are good over every range. Course, you'll probably complain about how the KSG has an awful spread at close range when you hipfire it. /prediction.
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Cosmic_Coyote posted...fatclemenza posted...From: Cosmic_Coyote | #001Also Shotguns should be SECONDARY weapons...
I do not aim with my hand, I aim with my eye. I do not shoot with my hand, I shoot with my mind. I do not kill with my gun, I kill with my heart.
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