So what underused / overused items in the game are going to get a buff / nerf?

#61supercoolisaacPosted 11/25/2012 12:55:41 PM
DJ_Pauly_D posted...
BTM4444 posted...
I don't I understand how people can say the m8a1 should get nerfed. i just got it gold and yes it is a rly good gun but it has its weaknesses.


True i prefer the FAL and 556 select fire, its probably the best burst fire gun but doesnt need nerfing imo.


The burst fire part is fine, but the select fire needs some kind of nerf. Whether that be an increase in recoil or slower rate of fire.
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#62DJ_Pauly_DPosted 11/25/2012 12:57:55 PM
supercoolisaac posted...
DJ_Pauly_D posted...
BTM4444 posted...
I don't I understand how people can say the m8a1 should get nerfed. i just got it gold and yes it is a rly good gun but it has its weaknesses.


True i prefer the FAL and 556 select fire, its probably the best burst fire gun but doesnt need nerfing imo.


The burst fire part is fine, but the select fire needs some kind of nerf. Whether that be an increase in recoil or slower rate of fire.


Well i think the FAL and 556 are both better with select fire than the M8 but i dunno, either way i think the SMGs need nerfing before any assault rifle.
#63outlawstar289Posted 11/25/2012 1:03:17 PM
Baseballtitan posted...
Actually, I would like to see some sort of change to LMG's with Target Finder. Maybe a crazy amount of added recoil? Dying to someone spraying ~40 bullets my way because he sees a giant red box makes me sad.


Wow what a baby. Someone killed you with an lmg. And you could just use cold blooded
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#64CinderDragon77Posted 11/25/2012 1:05:26 PM
Baseballtitan posted...
CinderDragon77 posted...
Wants to see claymores and betties made useless...ever try putting on flak jacket or engineer with a black hat? Or do you just like complaining about them because you use dexterity on a hip-fire spray and pray SMG class instead of engineer or...well nothing really competes with flak jacket, not until ghost is made effective while not moving again at least.


Lmao. I have them on half of my classes because the BB spam is so crazy that you stand no chance unless you have engineer and 2 black hats on everything. GG 3arc for making it so I HAVE to waste AT LEAST 3 points on every class to counter Lethals.

And btw, keep crying about ghost, as long as people keep using it, it will NEVER receive a buff.


Pretty sure I never cried about ghost, and if you have any amount of situational awareness you can avoid those things without either perk or the Black Hat. And you'd only need to use 1 slot/point for your first perk to make them worthless if you can't pay enough attention to avoid them in the first place so you don't HAVE to use 3 points, heck not even 1 if you're any good.
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#65Linctagon7Posted 11/25/2012 1:12:39 PM
DJ_Pauly_D posted...
Linctagon7 posted...
DJ_Pauly_D posted...
Linctagon7 posted...
Flak Jacket need a nerf.

I can tank two Betties or Two Claymore stacked on eachother and not die. That's broken.

And before anyone starts the old Tacmask argument - Tacticals don't kill you.


Get out, anything that makes the game more about gun on gun gameplay is a good thing.


You saying this after I just finished a game where there where 22 UAVs used,13 Hunter Killers, 6 L Strikes, 2 Stealth Choppers, 1 Warthog and 2 Escort Drones. Most of them by me or my team. I went 56-9 with more than half my kills from streaks.

YOU get out.


??? I think killstreaks are too easy to get as well, i dont see how this counters my point?


You said the game must focus on "gun-on-gun". However, 60% of the kills in this game do not come from guns. So wanting the placed explosives to suck simply because they go against the "gun-on-gun" gameplay that is in reality already limited in this game regardless makes little sense to me. Sure, streaks need to be earned, but I don't even have to use my gun ONCE to get a CP. I can easily get up to a CP with UAV - HKD - CP doing nothing but shooting down/hacking UAVs and capturing two objectives. Not even once firing a single bullet, and still getting a high tier lethal streak with luck.
#66RandomTrampPosted 11/25/2012 1:20:23 PM
I don't use Betties & claymores myself, other than completing the challenges, but I enjoy the tactical dimension that effective placement of traps adds to the game. It's all variety, as was stealth playstyles.

There's nothing in this game that doesn't have at least one counter, so far as I can tell, except for maybe the lightning strike due to the speed of deployment. Betties have several counters so a nerf is unnecessary. Without them Dexterity would be even more ubiquitous.
#67SharazurePosted 11/25/2012 1:37:04 PM
RandomTramp posted...
1. I'd advocate faster mantling being switched from Dex to ExCon.
2. Hardwired needs to prevent hacking and give killstreaks extra health/flares.
3. Reduce recoil on Scar very slightly and make it no more than 4-hit kill at long range.

LeQuack147 posted...
I'd like something done about Bouncing Betties, I see more of those things than grenades lately. A delay between throwing and being active would be good.


There are several counters though and at least the Betties in BO2 might help force people away from Dexterity or Ghost and/or Shock Charge to use one of those counters.
Also, Betties were a joke in MW3; I play on default settting and yet still managed to prone easily below any I set off.


Hell yeah, I second #2, totally would make it worth it if you couldn't be hacked. Possibly even make it cancel out engineer seeing your stuff.
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#68ssupermario92Posted 11/25/2012 1:42:17 PM
Baseballtitan posted...
Actually, I would like to see some sort of change to LMG's with Target Finder. Maybe a crazy amount of added recoil? Dying to someone spraying ~40 bullets my way because he sees a giant red box makes me sad.


lrn2aim?

if he's doing that then should be an easy as hell kill for you. Honestly >_>
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#69Baseballtitan(Topic Creator)Posted 11/25/2012 1:45:28 PM
ssupermario92 posted...
Baseballtitan posted...
Actually, I would like to see some sort of change to LMG's with Target Finder. Maybe a crazy amount of added recoil? Dying to someone spraying ~40 bullets my way because he sees a giant red box makes me sad.


lrn2aim?

if he's doing that then should be an easy as hell kill for you. Honestly >_>


There's those time where you're just trying to move through an area and your screen goes insta-red, you hit the deck and more concerned with getting to safety than fighting back against a guy that got the beat on you first. Even with an AR, since he got the first shot, even if I'm headglitching, thats a fire-fight it's incredibly hard to overcome for anyone. And I really don't want to have to waste a point on Cold-Blooded. It's such a niche perk that is really only necessary once every fifteen games or so. But when the other team has one person using an LMG with Target Finder I do find it quite annoying.
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#70HaganPosted 11/25/2012 1:47:17 PM
nerf lag
buff maps
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