I see a lot of butt hurt 870 users in here. The gun is broken. I use it all the time, but that doesn't mean its not broken. Hip fire is useless? That's how I know YOU haven't used the 870. It one hit kills anything under 20 yards, and maybe that's realistic for a shotgun, but its annoying in a video game. I can't tell you how many games I've started off 0-3, 0-5, switched to the 870 and finished with 20 kills or more.
Sorry you cant admit to using a broken gun. I, on the other hand, can. And I'll use it until it gets the patch it merits.
actually the gun without long barrel can't osk to even 500 inches
Oh yes, sorry, I apologize, I didn't read my first post a second time before posting it. Yes, that is with the long barrel. Yes, its still ridiculous
again no, long barrel would increase the osk range by 16% to less than 570 inches. This is still less osk range than the stakeout from the previous black ops. 20 yards is 720 inches. With long barrel the r870 will have already dropped off to it's minimum damage of 10 at 590 inches. --- The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; But already it was impossible to say which was which.
It doesn't need a nerf. But I do have a question. Since the 870 is unlocked as soon as you can create a class and rank 4, how did it take 10 matches to unlock it? Everyone I've played with goes from rank 1 to rank 4 in 2 matches at most, but usually it only takes 1 match.
I had 80,000 kills with the spas in BO1. Granted that was acumulated over 2 years, but still.
SPAS in BO1 was better than SPAS in MW3, though. I had 20k kills with the SPAS in BO1 and I hardly played it. --- These are like, third dimension glasses, you know? They don't really work, though because I feel like I'm still seeing stuff in whatever dimension we live in.
Unless you've played CoD2 or RB6V1, you don't know the meaning of a game breaking shotgun. Before you say pre-patch 1887s, no, even those don't compare. --- http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/8325/scrunchface2copyfx0.png http://www.xboxlc.com/cards/default/alle5.jpg