I thought I just sucked REALLY bad at shooters until I realized my TV lags

#1Xian042Posted 12/6/2012 6:28:06 AM
For the longest time I was playing Halo 3 and various other FPS's and having tons of trouble aiming. I thought these old thumbs just couldn't handle it anymore.

Then I hooked up my XB to a lower end HD monitor and started racking up some numbers. Superfast aiming and dead on shots. Its like night and day, I hooked the XB back up to the big TV just try it, the first time I played I was 0-8, next game was 3-10 by some well placed bettys. Those scores are nearly flipped when I play on the monitor. Makes me wonder how many people don't even realize their screen is lagging when they play, think they just really suck.
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#2RazorSharp02Posted 12/6/2012 6:32:17 AM
Most newer TV's have a mode called "game mode". When it's on it eliminates this lag. Not sure if this is supposed to be a troll/joke topic or not, but this "TV lag" does actually exist.

So if you're trying to eliminate all the lag possible, go through your TV's menus and modes and turn ON the game mode to eliminate the lag. It's only a split second worth of a delay but it makes all the difference in the world in FPS games
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#3trakrunr4evrPosted 12/6/2012 6:32:36 AM
Is this real, or another troll topic?
#4trakrunr4evrPosted 12/6/2012 6:35:09 AM
RazorSharp02 posted...
Most newer TV's have a mode called "game mode". When it's on it eliminates this lag. Not sure if this is supposed to be a troll/joke topic or not, but this "TV lag" does actually exist.

So if you're trying to eliminate all the lag possible, go through your TV's menus and modes and turn ON the game mode to eliminate the lag. It's only a split second worth of a delay but it makes all the difference in the world in FPS games


I saw this option on my TV but left it off because it says something about "blurry display" lol. I will have to turn it on then..
#5TysonTerrorPosted 12/6/2012 6:39:09 AM
I never thought about that before. I know when I play rock band I have to calibrate to allow for tv lag
#6Doktor_KaboomPosted 12/6/2012 6:40:02 AM
trakrunr4evr posted...
Is this real, or another troll topic?


It's real. As stupid as it sounds it is true. The newer fancy tvs process the signal and this extra fiddling around with the picture delays it a bit. Game mode skips the processing so you get it in real time.
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#7patgd04Posted 12/6/2012 6:42:29 AM
yep its really only have a video option for my tv so I get boned a lot >_>
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#8Xian042(Topic Creator)Posted 12/6/2012 6:50:11 AM
Are you all trolling by calling my topic a troll topic?

Or are you confusing someone trying to start a discussion as "trolling"?

Or do you find it hard to believe that someone such as myself still exists that doesn't know about "game mode" on their TV? (thank you, btw, I'll check and see if my TV has that)

OR, do you not know that some HDTV's can lag the image, making fast games difficult?

Either way, I am legitimately mentioning that I had a hard time with FPS games and such until I switched to my computers HD monitor. Serious night and day difference. It really is only a split second but in a game of that speed its noticeable. It made me wonder if anyone else was experiencing this and not even realizing it.
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#9bcon1208Posted 12/6/2012 6:51:13 AM
trakrunr4evr posted...
Is this real, or another troll topic?


Completely real. And Razor, that "Game Mode" is more of a placenta usually than an actual fix. Here's how I know (Warning - long but very interesting read head):

I always played on a old fashioned tube tv until about 3 years ago. It was around the time Halo Reach came out. I decided that since video games have been my major hobby for years, it made sense to get a nice tv. So I bought a really nice Phillips 720p HDTV. 32", perfect size for what I needed. So I got home, hooked up my Xbox 360 to it with the AV cables (I did not have an HDMI cable, and I figured it wasn't needed...HA!).

Then the problems started....I remember playing Reach and everything was awful. It literally felt like the screen was behind what my fingers were doing. Needless to say, I share the TC's scoring. Trying to play the campaign was literally painful, multiplier was...impossible. I immediately started doing some research and soon learned about "Input Lag". What it is, is the process that your HDTV has to accomplish in order to make a picture of the appropriate quality. In my case, my 360 was outputting a signal ate around 480p, much lower than 720p (due to the AV cables), and my HDTV was trying to show it in 720p. So it was rescaling the image basically. Now the picture was fine, and I loved the difference in quality. However, this rescaling caused the input lag. Fractions of a second was all it was, but it was a nightmare.

Also in my research I discovered the "Game Mode" setting meant to alleviate this problem. It's bull. All it does is try and adjust your HDTV's image settings so the rescaling isn't as extreme. You could accomplish this same task by manually adjusting the settings yourself (brightness, sharpness, contrast, etc.). Don't buy into these "Game Mode" features. Here's the real fix...

During my research I found devices that would help the rescaling thus making the game playable. However these things were like $100 then, and in no way was I spending that. So I simply dealt with it, and tried to make the best of it. Needless to say I was sad that, in making my games look much nicer, I could barely even play them.

Finally I had an idea, why not get an HDMI cable and try that!? I mean it'd be worth a shot. By this point I had a decent understanding of tv resolutions and what the problem was, so I figured using an HD cable instead of the SD AV cables would solve it! Nope...it was the same. Picture was even prettier, but I still had the input lag. But here's the solution: shortly after hooking up the HDMI cable, I learned there are output settings on the 360 (the newer models). I have a Slim model (was a few months old at the time). So I started driving through the menus and there it was, the holy grail. My output resolution on my 360 was set to 480p...even though I hooked up the HDMI cable, the 360 didn't automatically adjust it up to the higher resolution. So I went in and changed my settings to 720p (same as my HDTV was set to) and OMG IT WORKED!! After a month of fighting and confusion, NO MORE INPUT LAG! It was like I could play video games again, everything was new!

So TC, from the sounds of things you have two HDTV's, and one of them works without input lag, and the other doesn't. I'm willing to bet the "bigger" HDTV is a 1080p/i, correct? And the other is 720? I bet your 360 is outputting in 720, and when you hook it up to the other HDTV, you need to change the settings in the 360 itself. Hope this helps you!
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#10Doktor_KaboomPosted 12/6/2012 6:54:43 AM
Only 1 guy asked if it was a troll topic. My topic which quoted his was to state that it was not a troll topic so nobody is calling it a troll topic.
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