I tried the M8 and honestly I wasn't impressed pre patch. It was alright, but, I just don't care for it I guess.
Haven't really tried the R870, haven't used it much recently, guess I got sick of hitmarkers. I just prestiged so I didn't get a chance to try out the MSMC, but I could barely hit anyone at any significant range anyways so it won't matter too much to me. PDW I haven't spent the point on it yet, but I still expect it to be top tier.
But I feel that the patch did something to lessen the SBMM restrictions, because I have gotten into more lobbies with more 'noobs' than I did before. I still get competitive lobbies, which I am fine with, I am just glad to get more of a reprieve from it. --- "I loved throwing cans of flatulance at people sitting in corners. Even the hitmarker noise sounded like a fart. I will also miss those days." -aj4x94
i've only used fal + select fire after the patch and i can honestly say that i notice absolutely no difference in the recoil what so ever. haven't tried r870 yet, but im put off using it again as it was inconsistent before the patch. i dread to think what it is like now. can't comment on the smg's as i didn't use those overpowered guns. i hope they aren't as ridiculous as they were before with all the laser sight spam. --- GAMERTAG:v ACE RIMMER v