We're going to punish you for hosting...

#11TheKnifeMonkeyPosted 12/9/2012 7:32:59 AM
Yup, it's so mind-numbingly obvious that when Treyarch decided to create this lag comp system that they had a political agenda. EXACTLY what I was thinking!
#12GGearXPosted 12/9/2012 7:34:27 AM
Insta-Skill-627 posted...
zerooo0 posted...
Dragon91978 posted...
nuschler2212 posted...
...you will have bad lag.

And if you back out (not dashboard) you won't be able to play the game at all for five minutes as a punishment.

Socialism at its finest.

I understand the economic theory of punishing rich people (ie hosts that pay for the best Internet)is popular right now, but this is amazingly short sighted. Just like the theory itself.

The poor (those with crappy Internet) might benefit immediately. Soon the rich are going to move elsewhere.

That leaves nobody to help the poor.

Enjoy socialism.


Agreed.


Agreed x3



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#13inkf301Posted 12/9/2012 7:38:29 AM
I don't see the socialism connection. More like free market, since you can simply choose to play another game. You know, if you don't like it and all. If it were communism (not a romanticized version) then Call of Duty Black Ops 2 would be the only game you could play.

Yes, this is the free market at play. People whether they like the game or not put up their money to buy the game and play it. They have a choice to buy another game instead but chose this one.

If you'd like to speak in terms is the host/lag comp connection to a free market then you need to understand that in a free market you can expect no advantages. In fact most times other businesses will lobby together to create regulations and laws that impact other businesses in the field as a way to "balance out the market". The reality of this lobbying is really to keep others from having advantages they don't have or even to make it near impossible for new companies to get a foothold in the market.

So look at that lag compensation as a result of lobbying to keep your competitors down, that also harms you sometimes in the process. Next time everyone should lobby for better stuff.
#14DoggySmog84Posted 12/9/2012 7:43:52 AM
People with less than great internet are not poor. Between me and my wife we make about 100k+ which is far from poor. We just live about 3 miles from any major highway and all we have can get is DSL. Please think before you post stupid crap like that.
#15SwatterXXPosted 12/9/2012 7:49:38 AM
Thanks Obama.
#16maximoPosted 12/9/2012 7:50:02 AM
inkf301 posted...
I don't see the socialism connection. More like free market, since you can simply choose to play another game. You know, if you don't like it and all. If it were communism (not a romanticized version) then Call of Duty Black Ops 2 would be the only game you could play.

Yes, this is the free market at play. People whether they like the game or not put up their money to buy the game and play it. They have a choice to buy another game instead but chose this one.

If you'd like to speak in terms is the host/lag comp connection to a free market then you need to understand that in a free market you can expect no advantages. In fact most times other businesses will lobby together to create regulations and laws that impact other businesses in the field as a way to "balance out the market". The reality of this lobbying is really to keep others from having advantages they don't have or even to make it near impossible for new companies to get a foothold in the market.

So look at that lag compensation as a result of lobbying to keep your competitors down, that also harms you sometimes in the process. Next time everyone should lobby for better stuff.


Well said

Thank God for Battlefield.
#17KabtheMentatPosted 12/9/2012 7:54:10 AM(edited)
Fun fact: Dedicated servers wouldn't solve the problem.

You bring up Battlefield. How many times have you been shot while going around a corner or wall or ducking behind cover only to die several feet after the fact? I've played a hell of a lot of BF3 and it constantly happens. It's not as noticeable on larger maps because you're more concerned not being strafed by an aircraft or run over by a tank. But if you've played stuff like rush Metro, it's pretty common.

Also, this crap happens on the PC version of BO2...which DOES have dedicated servers.
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#18Styrof0amPosted 12/9/2012 7:53:49 AM
nuschler2212 posted...
And if you back out (not dashboard) you won't be able to play the game at all for five minutes as a punishment.


As soon as I get one-shotted, only to see a SMG emptying half a clip into me on the killcam, I'll leave. 9/10 times I get a Host Migration screen when I do, but I've never been punished for doing it. I can always join a new game right away.
#19maximoPosted 12/9/2012 8:00:48 AM
KabtheMentat posted...
Fun fact: Dedicated servers wouldn't solve the problem.

You bring up Battlefield. How many times have you been shot while going around a corner or wall or ducking behind cover only to die several feet after the fact? I've played a hell of a lot of BF3 and it constantly happens. It's not as noticeable on larger maps because you're more concerned not being strafed by an aircraft or run over by a tank. But if you've played stuff like rush Metro, it's pretty common.


Dedicated servers would make the game (BO) a better experience.

If you compare the technical performance of BF vs Black Ops. BF is far superior and at least you kow that you are not at an immediate disadvanage by not being a host.

There are too many technical problems plaguing BOs to list...

I'll give you another example:

I played a lot of Gears too. Gears 3 moved to dedicated servers and the perfomance improvements are considerable compared to the mess that was Gears, especially Gears 2.

COD series MP is becoming a dinosaur.
#20nuschler2212(Topic Creator)Posted 12/9/2012 9:17:40 AM
WhooKilledKenny posted...
Hey if men were not corrupt socialism would be the perfect government system. Then again democracy actually might work then also.


The United States isn't a democracy.

It's a democratic republic.
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