13 day ban for offensive emblems

#151Devilanse333Posted 12/12/2012 4:10:46 PM
Why removing emblems is the only winning move:

"Haw haw haw....I'm gonna make a dong emblem...even though I know this is very much frowned upon, and I could be disciplined...haw haw!!!"

vs.

"Wee...running around with an assault rifle...killing everyone I see sure is fun! Wow!! Look at the blood splatter off of that guy I just shot with a rocket launcher!! WHAAAA???? An emblem of a dong???? I'M OFFENDED!!!!"

On one side you have goofballs who just want to annoy people...on the other you have weaklings who lack the ability to just ignore foolishness that goes HAND IN HAND with the internet.
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#152JPhoenix985Posted 12/12/2012 4:11:01 PM
JPhoenix985 posted...
Cap1211 posted...
Nevest posted...

Once you go online, you lose all rights and are confined to the Treyarch ToS.


No good sir, for here in America we are granted certain unalienable rights by the constitution- the freedom of speech and expression. These rights are unknown to the Chinese Morality Special Assassination Service waging a war on our soldiers over digital pornography in the year 2025. And to those who say the female anatomy is offensive, put the controller down and go on a date- it is the year 2025 and we are free from these puritanical shackles that have chained us for so many centuries.


Taken from the Activision Terms of Service. I ask you please take a look at number 2. You can quote the Constitution all you want, but but by agreeing to the terms of service, which you have it you're playing online, all that "it's against my rights" crap goes right out the window. It's like agreeing to let the police into your house but then crying foul and demanding a warrant when they find drugs and arrest you. Know your rights.

Listed below are some, though not all, violations that may result in Activision terminating or suspending your access to the Product and/or restricting your ability to access and/or post UGC. You agree not to do any of the following actions while using the Product:

1. Harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress or discomfort upon another participant, user, or other individual or entity;
2. Transmit any UGC that Activision considers to be disruptive, unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, hateful, or racially, sexually, ethnically or otherwise objectionable...


And pay close attention to the "that Activision finds offensive part." It has nothing to do with anyone else. If they consider if offensive, you're SOL.
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#153bigbug1992Posted 12/12/2012 4:13:44 PM
furb posted...
I'm not reading the whole thread. I always report offensive emblems. But I really want to address something.

First off, I have a Master's degree in Political Science. My specialization is American Government/Public Policy and Political Theory.

The first amendment applies to the government and not private operations. The government can not abridge your rights to free speech and free expression. This, of course, is barring obscenity law. Which is totally real and constitutional. There have been Supreme Court cases over the issues of obscenity and there are legal tests as to what is obscene and what is not. This, however, is not relevant in regards to Black Ops' terms of service. The freedom of speech does not apply to private enterprises. Private operations can operate terms of services regulating nearly all forms of speech and expression on their platforms. It's up to them. Just like how it's up to you to agree to them. Accessing Black Ops online servers are not a right granted to you in the Constitution. Sorry.

Further, free speech, when it is applicable, does not mean free from consequences. The famous example of this is yelling "FIRE" in a crowded theater or other cases involving inciting mobs. There's also the examples of libel and slander.

Basically, invoking first amendment rights in the case of emblems in Black Ops is based, at best, on a sophomoric understanding of the Constitution. It just does not apply. You just sort of have to lump this fact. Of course, you could always use your first amendment rights to form a coalition, and amend the Constitution in such a way where freedom of speech applies to private services. In fact, I recommend that course of action if it is such a meaningful issue to you.


I addressed this same issue and gave similar examples in this topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/669289-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii/64898101
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#154Dr_ThroatpunchPosted 12/12/2012 4:13:59 PM
I don't know why it matters if someone's emblem is offensive. Is the game rated E or M?
#155imthestuntmanPosted 12/12/2012 4:24:17 PM
Dr_Throatpunch posted...
I don't know why it matters if someone's emblem is offensive. Is the game rated E or M?


its rated M for blood and violence. and it matters because i dont want to see genitals and swastikas constantly when playing a video games. and luckily its against the rules for those to be in the game through player created content and thats realistically all that matters,
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#156GamingAntPosted 12/12/2012 4:30:18 PM
Yeah hopefully this means that there will be a lot less immature people yelling over their mics. Saves me the time spent muting them.
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#157Mander1861Posted 12/12/2012 4:32:23 PM
Velvet_Llama posted...
Mander1861 posted...
Thanks for admitting it was a bad analogy.
And sure what kind of life advice do you need besides stop being an over sensitive nancy boy?


Wait, I'm not sure I want you as a life coach if you have such poor reading comprehension. Can you teach me to dance with style? That's not dependent on reading comprehension.


When you went apples vs apples that was you admitting the first one was a bad example.
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#158oReloadPosted 12/12/2012 4:34:24 PM
HAHAHAHA

2 weeks without call of duty.

CY@
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#159Dr_ThroatpunchPosted 12/12/2012 4:40:25 PM
imthestuntman posted...
Dr_Throatpunch posted...
I don't know why it matters if someone's emblem is offensive. Is the game rated E or M?


its rated M for blood and violence. and it matters because i dont want to see genitals and swastikas constantly when playing a video games. and luckily its against the rules for those to be in the game through player created content and thats realistically all that matters,


Then they should ban people for saying those things in-game.

Not that I care, I guess, since it is their game to do as they see fit with. It's just that doing one and not the other is like censoring the covers of only half of the DVDs in a porno store.
#160Darkeagle6Posted 12/12/2012 4:40:30 PM
How in the world are so many people (allegedly over 17 years old) having so much trouble understanding the most basic fact that, to play the online multiplayer component of the game, you have to agree to the company's terms? Those terms include restricting your language and the stuff you display online, and warn that there are sanctions for those who don't follow the rules.

And if you can't understand why those rules exist, you should probably consider extracting your head from the lower end of your digestive system. They're there so the largest amount of customers can enjoy themselves. If your enjoyment of the game depends on doing things that detract from many other people's experiences and you refuse to play any other way, not only is the company in their right to ban you (you did agree to the terms, after all), it's a good thing for them to do so. It means you probably have no business playing with others. And also that you might be a jerk.

If this is such a big issue for you, then your best recourse is to get yourself and other like-minded people to write to Activision/Treyarch about how inadequate you find their service to be, and how much it would improve if you were allowed to create emblems which cleverly arrange a bunch of genitalia into a swastika.
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