POLL: Treyarch or Infinity Ward who makes better CODs?

#21UhOhJoePosted 12/28/2012 12:58:23 PM
Before MW3 I would have said IW, but after that game, I like 3arc better tbqh.
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#22TwistedxL3G3NDPosted 12/28/2012 1:07:41 PM(edited)
BrownPack posted...
DudusCoke posted...
3 arc brings better innovation, but IW makes a better spine to a game (coding, etc)


How? 3ARC hasn't brought any real innovation until BO2. IW brought the better innovation as well.


Theater mode? zombies? creating your own emblem? Those were all in BLOPS1 you even paying attention?

Edit: some spelling mistakes.
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#23Crack_FoxPosted 12/28/2012 1:16:47 PM
I voted IW but kinder felt guilty.

Blops2 is awesome.
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#24CalvinCandiePosted 12/28/2012 1:33:04 PM
From: BrownPack | #016
How? 3ARC hasn't brought any real innovation until BO2. IW brought the better innovation as well.

Has any of the IW innovation actually been good? They changed the game for the worse each time. Made boosters, campers & button spammers out of everyone by adding titles, nukes and stacking killstreaks, completely taking the focus off gun on gun gameplay. Now we have idiots running around aimlessly trying to quickscope & knife or idiots sitting at the back of map trying to get the last of 30 possible killstreaks. They're responsible for destroying the community with their "innovations."

Treyarch's list of innovation actually made the games more enjoyable. Zombies, CO-OP, Flak jacket that works, gore (and that was just ONE game!), Easter eggs, Face Paint, the whole free elite scoreboard stats and combat record in Black Ops, etc. (please dont even whine about tanks. If you cant take them out, you're bad. It was so fun watching it roll over your C4 and exploding).

Meanwhile you're saying Black Ops 2 made some big game-play changes? Yeah, nothing good. Exploiting scores from EMP grenades, dogtags and assists to get powerful killstreaks? Yeah, get dogs or a swarm without getting kills in Kill Confirmed, great idea! Giving people specialist perks without actually needing to earn it with the 10 point system? Good lord, what garbage. And dont even say Hardpoint. It's just dropzone without any rewards, and the reason you can't accumulate points from holding the hardpoint or HQ is because of that stupid innovation of score-based killstreaks. TERRIBLE!
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#25shadowsofdawnPosted 12/28/2012 1:34:10 PM
I vote 3arc, but I think IW devs are more skilled. They just have no sense of balance which ruins their games.
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#26BrownPackPosted 12/28/2012 2:13:30 PM
TwistedxL3G3ND posted...
BrownPack posted...
DudusCoke posted...
3 arc brings better innovation, but IW makes a better spine to a game (coding, etc)


How? 3ARC hasn't brought any real innovation until BO2. IW brought the better innovation as well.


Theater mode? zombies? creating your own emblem? Those were all in BLOPS1 you even paying attention?

Edit: some spelling mistakes.


Theater mode, yeah, but Zombies? that isn't the core multiplayer experience.

And don't even try to include creating your emblem as real innovation. I'm pretty damn sure the entire CoD community would trade emblem creation for an actual good and working netcoding.
#27CalvinCandiePosted 12/28/2012 2:15:24 PM
From: BrownPack | #026
I'm pretty damn sure the entire CoD community would trade emblem creation for an actual good and working netcoding.

Yes, we'd all trade innovation for a working game. Lag Ops 2 has neither.
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#28BluesSoul617Posted 12/28/2012 2:17:07 PM
fatclemenza posted...
From: NiNtEnDoMaNiAc1 | #018
IW actually think about their games.

Yeah, they definitely put a lot of thought into deathstreaks, infinite explosives, support package and MW3.


lmfao
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#29TwistedxL3G3NDPosted 12/28/2012 2:32:02 PM
BrownPack posted...
TwistedxL3G3ND posted...
BrownPack posted...
DudusCoke posted...
3 arc brings better innovation, but IW makes a better spine to a game (coding, etc)


How? 3ARC hasn't brought any real innovation until BO2. IW brought the better innovation as well.


Theater mode? zombies? creating your own emblem? Those were all in BLOPS1 you even paying attention?

Edit: some spelling mistakes.


Theater mode, yeah, but Zombies? that isn't the core multiplayer experience.

And don't even try to include creating your emblem as real innovation. I'm pretty damn sure the entire CoD community would trade emblem creation for an actual good and working netcoding.


Sorry I didn't know theater was the core multiplayer experience, as long as it isn't core multiplayer experience it doesn't count, NO FUN ALLOWED!!

And please, "good and working netcoding"? Do you even know what netcode is? You want innovation and then you whine it doesn't count because X reason? Get out of here.
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#30BrownPackPosted 12/28/2012 2:42:00 PM
CalvinCandie posted...

Has any of the IW innovation actually been good? They changed the game for the worse each time. Made boosters, campers & button spammers out of everyone by adding titles, nukes and stacking killstreaks, completely taking the focus off gun on gun gameplay. Now we have idiots running around aimlessly trying to quickscope & knife or idiots sitting at the back of map trying to get the last of 30 possible killstreaks. They're responsible for destroying the community with their "innovations."


Yes, it was good. Whether you liked it or not is your opinion. Boosters were in every game. No doubt about that. It's just it was most popular in MW2. People still boosted in BO, and MW3, there's no denying that. campers? Every CoD as well. Don't exaggerate. What the hell is a button spammer? And for the last time, stacking killstreaks is not a problem, unless you don't take down killstreaks. And idiots trying to quickscope is a community problem, not a game one. Idiots sitting in the back of the map are less likely to get their killstreaks. I don't even know where you're going with this. If Cod4 and MW2 didn't come out, we wouldn't have CoD wouldn't be good at all today.

list of innovation actually made the games more enjoyable. Zombies, CO-OP, Flak jacket that works, gore (and that was just ONE game!), Easter eggs, Face Paint, the whole free elite scoreboard stats and combat record in Black Ops, etc. (please dont even whine about tanks. If you cant take them out, you're bad. It was so fun watching it roll over your C4 and exploding).


Wow, seriously? Stop mentioning Zombies. Please. We're trying to talk about innovation with the core multiplayer. Anyone can make up a minigame, but it takes even more skill to fix something that you already have.

Do you even know what innovation means? You are talking about easter eggs, and face paint. Wow. I thought I heard it all too. You set a new low for the intelligence of Gfaqs users.

Meanwhile you're saying Black Ops 2 made some big game-play changes? Yeah, nothing good. Exploiting scores from EMP grenades, dogtags and assists to get powerful killstreaks? Yeah, get dogs or a swarm without getting kills in Kill Confirmed, great idea! Giving people specialist perks without actually needing to earn it with the 10 point system? Good lord, what garbage. And dont even say Hardpoint. It's just dropzone without any rewards, and the reason you can't accumulate points from holding the hardpoint or HQ is because of that stupid innovation of score-based killstreaks. TERRIBLE!


Yes. Black Ops adding the Pick 10 system is the biggest change Treyarch has ever done for multiplayer. Gore doesn't add anything that changes the way the game is played. And in Kill Confirmed, you need to get kills, otherwise it'll take you longer to get bigger dogs.