Vonderhaar on next title update: "Its a big one."

#81MiniVirus2Posted 1/20/2013 11:02:54 AM
ihaveyahoorares posted...
Nerf the Trolling Drone. That thing only finds the person on the streak.

Now, another thing I don't like is the fact the lower level killstreaks don't have much to hide you from them. HKD's are ridiculous, TC-XD's get me through Flak Jacket, nothing protects you from the Guardian, Sentry, or Lightning Strike. All the low level killstreaks have no counters. Escort drone, chopper, swarm, lodestar, all have counters... Who dreamt that up?

Not even going to address all the coding and usual 'wtf Treyarch' topics I see.


1. You're aware that Swarm is just a bunch of HKs, right? So by your logic, HKs have a perfectly reasonable counter.

2. UAV has launchers, RCs you stand somewhere the user won't see you and shoot the thing (also you can hear them coming clear as day and you're warned), Guardian you use your eyes or engineer and EMPs, Sentries (see guardian), HKs... Use ****ing blind eye already. Lightning strikes are easily avoidable after the patch and if you still grief, use CB (protects against player controlled KS).

I just wanted to help point out the clear cut resources to counter your loathed low end streaks.
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#82Sega9599Posted 1/20/2013 11:06:55 AM
Vonderhaar on his next idea for dinner: "Its a big one."
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#83Arcanine2009Posted 1/20/2013 11:33:10 AM
Aether_Lyric posted...
Arcanine2009 posted...
Smgs really don't need anymore nerfs.. Bad enough that they got noticable nerfs in the last gametuning patch on dec, and that rapid fire is ass in this game. They should buff ar range if hey have to, if anythinh, imo..


SMGs are fine except for the MSMC and PDW being potent mid-range weapons. SMGs should only be effective at close range


hell no. They already have recoil nerfs as is. PDw57 can't even be used midrange, while recoil and range is the only thing msmc has over pdw57's 20 mag size advantage. Also, their range is nothing spectacular and lower than ARs.
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#84Arcanine2009Posted 1/20/2013 11:39:34 AM(edited)
ihaveyahoorares posted...
I've been using the Executioner a lot recently. It's perfect for certain situations. It found its niche.

Buff:

BUFF THE ASSAULT SHIELD!!!! Its atrocious in all ways. Fix the Fast Hands glitch with it!
Buff the S12 and M1216 just a little.
Buff SVU so it's a OSK silenced to the head and very upper chest.
Buff the ADS movement of AR's. Gimme .5 instead of .4 and they'll be more usable.
Buff Cold Blooded to make the TF not beep or turn red.
Buff Hardwired to make it useful.



Nerf:

Nerf the MSMC and the PDW a tad. Little more recoil, slight range nerf on MSMC.
Nerf the Select Fire FAL. Not 100% sure how.
Nerf pistols only a tad. They're the best weapon for CQC combat, which most of these maps are.
Nerf R870. A little more spread.
Nerf the Target Finder.
Nerf the shock charges. Good lord who's bad idea was that?!?!?
Nerf the Trolling Drone. That thing only finds the person on the streak.

Now, another thing I don't like is the fact the lower level killstreaks don't have much to hide you from them. HKD's are ridiculous, TC-XD's get me through Flak Jacket, nothing protects you from the Guardian, Sentry, or Lightning Strike. All the low level killstreaks have no counters. Escort drone, chopper, swarm, lodestar, all have counters... Who dreamt that up?

Not even going to address all the coding and usual 'wtf Treyarch' topics I see.


I'm a huge dragunov and svu-as fan, and it doesn't take a fan to know that giving svu-as a osok to the upper chest is a downright horrible and idiotic idea, considering its low recoil and rate of fire.

Adding OSOK to the neck without silencer, and osok to the head with silencer is good enough. Chest or arms will make it too powerful..

And **** no, no more nerfs on smgs, especially pdw57 and msmc. Nerf their recoil and range any more, and they will be otclassed by the mp7 and vector.

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#85Arcanine2009Posted 1/20/2013 11:52:26 AM(edited)
I think the best way to deal with SMR vs FAL usability, is to give the SMR AR hipfire spread and ADS time, and same rate of fire as FAL, while reducing FAL's hipspread to be equivalent to what SMR is now.

I wouldn't mind if SMR gets a OSOK to the head at close to medium range, to make it equivalent to mw3 m14. I'd be willing to keep SMR's worse than hipfire spread and lower rof cap for this..

But regardless, svu-as needs to osok to the head with a silencer to be vompetitive against the fal and smr, and the 3 sniper rifles that already all atleast osok to the chest, upper arms, and up with silencer.

^this convo has nothing to with fal as a stand alone gun, btw.
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#86AlexanaxelaPosted 1/20/2013 11:53:22 AM
From: Arcanine2009 | Posted: 1/20/2013 12:47:56 PM | #085
I think the best way to deal with SMR vs FAL usability, is to give the SMR AR hipfire spread and ADS time, and same rate of fire as FAL, while reducing FAL's hipspread to be equivalent to what SMR is now.

I wouldn't mind if SMR gets a OSOK to the head at close to medium range, to make it equivalent to mw3 m14. I'd be willing to keep SMR's worse than hipfire spread and lower rof cap for this..

But regardless, svu-as needs to osok to the head with a silencer to be vompetitive against the fal and smr, and the 3 sniper rifles that already all atleast osok to the chest, upper arms, and up with silencer.

no

nerf everything
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#87Lord_TenseEyePosted 1/20/2013 11:55:45 AM
fallenKlNG posted...
Nerf the target finder so that cold blooded users are truly invisible to it.


Invisible? You mean you want people to not even show up on your screen if you have cold blooded on and they are using a target finder? Come on. Ridiculous. I rarely use the target finder (to get some annoying camper that's blended in with the surroundings).
#88Warrior_King252Posted 1/20/2013 12:01:14 PM
They need to do something about the sniper rifles, as in nerf the heck out of them.
#89fatclemenza(Topic Creator)Posted 1/20/2013 12:08:23 PM
From: Lord_TenseEye | #087
Invisible? You mean you want people to not even show up on your screen if you have cold blooded on and they are using a target finder? Come on. Ridiculous. I rarely use the target finder (to get some annoying camper that's blended in with the surroundings).

I don't have a problem with the TF, but it shouldn't turn the crosshair red on somebody with Cold Blooded like it does now. Its not a big difference, but a questionable design.

From: Warrior_King252 | #088
They need to do something about the sniper rifles, as in nerf the heck out of them.

Explain why.
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#90levelshooterPosted 1/20/2013 12:13:27 PM
xnxbxax posted...
Fix theater and nerf R870 into oblivion. That's it.


Dont use theater myself but next that pos 870 it's like a sniper lol
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