The lag switcher is back

#31duericPosted 2/1/2013 10:33:51 AM
darkshadowmaster posted...


Only thing is there really isn't anything they can do to keep lag switching from happening. They can punish you for it, but can't stop you from doing it since there is pretty much no way to tell the difference between little Timmys horrible internet that is being played on dial up while torrenting porn on a mangled wire and a lag switch.

Most they could do is possibly just auto disconnect you if it looses connectivity like that, but then they would be booting off more people that just had a brief lag spurt than they would lag switchers.


Yeah. It's an un-winnable fight. If Youtube is good for one thing it's exposing these people.

Imagine how much we probably got lagged out back in the day and had no clue it was going on.
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#32Gritzblitz56Posted 2/1/2013 11:23:38 AM
It's much harder to get away with now because of theatre mode and youtube. Plus you have to be pretty dense to not know the difference between a bad connection and someone using a lag switch.

If someone wants to keep buying new consoles just so they can cheat at a meaningless video game, then there really isn't anything more that can be done to stop them. Luckily the relative number of such pathetic creatures is pretty low.
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#33BrostachePosted 2/1/2013 11:40:49 AM
darkshadowmaster posted...
dueric posted...
darkshadowmaster posted...
IP ban wouldn't work either though, most ISPs don't use static IPs so they eventually change. Because of that all that would happen is eventually the IPs would switch and whoever inherited his old IP would then be banned from XBL while the offender gets a new IP address.

Not to mention he could also probably just call the ISP and get them to switch it if he complains enough.


If your ISP does give you a static address (Comcast does where I am), it's not all that easy to get it changed.

But either way. Point was MS bans the console knowing you can just go out and buy another.

So they're not only not banning the cheater, but they benefit from them continuing to do so.


it's different where I live. When I lived in Pgh, PA and worked for Comcast you did not get a static IP unless you were a Business class internet, or unless you paid extra for a static IP.

If you wanted it changed you simply had to call up & eventually the ticket would be moved up to t3 support and it would get changed.

But yea, MS wins either way with this because like you said, with the console ban all he's got to do is buy another, which is money in their pocket.


You are both kind of right, as far as i know.

While technically dynamic, most people will only ever have a single IP address. I have never tried it (as i have never been IP banned before), but there are methods to pull a new IP address from your provider.... tho i cant attest to if they actually work or not.
#34Sith JediPosted 2/3/2013 1:49:41 AM
dueric posted...
darkshadowmaster posted...
dueric posted...
darkshadowmaster posted...
IP ban wouldn't work either though, most ISPs don't use static IPs so they eventually change. Because of that all that would happen is eventually the IPs would switch and whoever inherited his old IP would then be banned from XBL while the offender gets a new IP address.

Not to mention he could also probably just call the ISP and get them to switch it if he complains enough.


If your ISP does give you a static address (Comcast does where I am), it's not all that easy to get it changed.

But either way. Point was MS bans the console knowing you can just go out and buy another.

So they're not only not banning the cheater, but they benefit from them continuing to do so.


it's different where I live. When I lived in Pgh, PA and worked for Comcast you did not get a static IP unless you were a Business class internet, or unless you paid extra for a static IP.

If you wanted it changed you simply had to call up & eventually the ticket would be moved up to t3 support and it would get changed.

But yea, MS wins either way with this because like you said, with the console ban all he's got to do is buy another, which is money in their pocket.


I was unaware that it was that easy to get a new IP. I thought it had something to do with laws or some s***. LOL

I guess it could all depend on region. We were basically the first wave to get Comcast back when it was still ATT @ Home. Maybe that has something to do with it? I've never really needed a reason to change mine so I never looked into it.

Not to mention, if someone is so inclined to cheat, couldn't they probably figure out a way around the console ban too?

I just wish MS had a lasting way to stop these clowns from ruining the nice things we have.


I think with some ISPs you can just call up and request a dynamic IP but may have to pay extra. But I didn't even think about different states having different regulations with IP...that's probably a good possibility.

And it may have just been a fluke, but back when I was with AT&T, I had a dynamic IP that would switch between the same 5 IP addresses and some of them would go off and on being banned from 4chan (highschool) despite me never posting anything. Which would suggest shared IP addresses...then again maybe my aunt and uncle were posting CP or something. <.< But if some ISPs do have shared IPs, that would be some pretty hilarious trolling for people to do.

Back in the day of MUDs, the main one I played didn't have the most gifted coders (the internet was in its infancy afterall) so if someone was caught cheating, they would ban the entire ISP in a certain region...I got NetZero banned in central California. :/