Please, tell me again how having a high k/d makes you a good player.

#81justincase04Posted 2/8/2013 4:42:07 PM
dueric posted...
justincase04 posted...


I know it may be hard for you to understand this. Maybe some people like you have never been in a competitive type sport and/or situation but losing is the absolute worst. All the wins just roll together. It's the losses that stay there for a long time. When that mentality is built into you you will do anything to win and you won't ever quit. It's not the talented guys at this game you need to worry about. It's the guys that would do anything to win you need to look out for


Dude, my attitude toward competition in videogames stems FROM my history in athletics.

I literally cannot throw anything anymore without feeling pain up into my ear. My knees crack every time I bend. My back has good days and bad. I have to use a spotter even when I warm up on bench because my right elbow is held together by love and unicorn feathers now.

It's the people who have no competitive athletic background that get it f***** up.


So then why is it so hard for you to believe that someone would rather go -100 and win than go +200 and lose? Stats and all that stuff is a by-product from a strong desire to win. People will say they want to win and say they are willing to give up what it would take to win, but clearly when tested will not. The guy that got 85 kills wouldn't give up what the other two guys on the other team were to win. He would rather get 85 kills and lose by 30 than get maybe 50 kills with some more deaths to give his team a better chance at winning. It's simple. All the circumstantial stuff doesn't even matter. They guy just didn't want it more
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#82DutchZombiePosted 2/8/2013 4:54:09 PM
In objective matches K/D means exactly nothing, nada. In Dom I usually have the most caps and we win almost every match. In BO2 currently have a 17 win streak with a a 7 win ratio and I don't even need to go positive to do that. I use a launcher to take out kill streaks and try to ruin opposing players streaks. I laugh at lobbies who consistently put up high K/D's and keep losing every single time.
#83duericPosted 2/8/2013 5:07:02 PM(edited)
justincase04 posted...


So then why is it so hard for you to believe that someone would rather go -100 and win than go +200 and lose? Stats and all that stuff is a by-product from a strong desire to win. People will say they want to win and say they are willing to give up what it would take to win, but clearly when tested will not. The guy that got 85 kills wouldn't give up what the other two guys on the other team were to win. He would rather get 85 kills and lose by 30 than get maybe 50 kills with some more deaths to give his team a better chance at winning. It's simple. All the circumstantial stuff doesn't even matter. They guy just didn't want it more


Because this is a videogame, dude. It's designed for entertainment, not competition. If it were, it wouldn't sell 10 million copies a year.

If you're feeding your competitive "juices" though random public matches in a videogame that's largely based on what kind of connection you have, you have no idea what being competitive means in the first place.

The only place you will find that type of attitude is on forums. Because believe it or not, 90% of the people who play this game don't care. They play because it's a fun videogame. That's it.

Did you completely miss my point, or just ignore it?
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#84fatclemenzaPosted 2/8/2013 5:10:34 PM(edited)
For every hard-fought win you get that causes you "joy", you'll have 3 hosts dashboard which makes you twice as upset each time. People should just play the way they want to play.

Not a slam against anybody, by the way.
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#85chessmyantidrugPosted 2/8/2013 5:10:16 PM
geodANGER posted...
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80 plus kills still means you are the best player in the lobby for that game just because his team didn't take advantage of having a slayer and they lost the blame doesn't fall on him but on the rest of his team not doing their part.

In all HIgher K/D makes you a better player there is no getting around that if you team can't get the objective while someone is murdered the other team over 10 fold then its not that persons fault he did his part.

ALL this game is , is killing and surviving add in a objective the killing and surviving does not go away.

If you play alone K/D is the only statistic that matters Since W/L really doesn't since you do not have control of who you play with if you are alone all the time.

K/D is the one true statistic you have complete control of and is you. Making it a judgement of how good you are.


I'm guessing you didn't look at the leaderboard. TC's team had two (2) people go positive while the other team had five (5) people go positive. Domination is about more than killing. Clearly you don't understand that. Stick to TDM.


yeah i never play TDM i only play dom I go for objectives and defend objectives while going positive that is key. but if someone has 80 kills on my team they are helping a lot and i mean a lot it allows me do go were ever I want and capture any objective I want with ease unlike a team that goes negative and gets me murdered by airstrike after airstrike .

if you think people are helping and they are negative then ur crazy


Of those 85 kills, only two were defends. Of those 85 kills, only two of those directly affected the objective. He depended on his team to carry him to victory and instead dragged them to defeat.


how do those defends matter if they lost the other team had the objectives there is nothing to defend

besides if you are murdering everyone and doing a really good job at it there is no reason to stop

his 5 other teammates should be on the objective not him ur doging this guy for being awesome at killing people flanking the map

covering a flank route is just as good as covering a objective your not holding the rest of his team responsible for sucking. it their fault


You obviously haven't looked at the picture link in the initial post. It was Ground War Domination. Supercoolisaac's team only won by 46 points so it's not like they held two flags the entire time. The top guy on the other team had plenty of chances to defend, but he had no interest in doing so. He wasn't playing the objective, he was farming kills.
#86duericPosted 2/8/2013 5:13:17 PM
fatclemenza posted...
For every hard-fought win you get that causes you "joy", you'll have 3 hosts dashboard which makes you twice as upset each time. People should just play the way they want to play.


Wait. Play a videogame the way you want? What is this high falutin' Wall Street mumbo jumbo you're speaking?

You're killing the sportsmanship with that attitude, bro.
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#87fatclemenzaPosted 2/8/2013 5:16:56 PM
From: dueric | #086
Wait. Play a videogame the way you want? What is this high falutin' Wall Street mumbo jumbo you're speaking?

You're killing the sportsmanship with that attitude, bro.

yeah you're right, brb getting energy drinks and sweatband gearing up for the MLG tournament in my room
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#88trakrunr4evrPosted 2/8/2013 5:30:30 PM
Some people are defending this guy, and some people are against him. You all realize the only way to tell how this guy was playing is to either:

A) Be him
B) Played with or against him
C) Watch a video of him playing

Isaac, you should post the video of this guys perspective on your Youtube and link it to this thread. Just a thought.
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#89duericPosted 2/8/2013 5:42:31 PM
fatclemenza posted...
From: dueric | #086
Wait. Play a videogame the way you want? What is this high falutin' Wall Street mumbo jumbo you're speaking?

You're killing the sportsmanship with that attitude, bro.

yeah you're right, brb getting energy drinks and sweatband gearing up for the MLG tournament in my room



HA!!! My man.
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#90supercoolisaac(Topic Creator)Posted 2/8/2013 5:58:16 PM
trakrunr4evr posted...
Some people are defending this guy, and some people are against him. You all realize the only way to tell how this guy was playing is to either:

A) Be him
B) Played with or against him
C) Watch a video of him playing

Isaac, you should post the video of this guys perspective on your Youtube and link it to this thread. Just a thought.


Theater never saves full ground war games in theater. I have the full thing saved from my perspective though.

dueric posted...
1) How do you know he was killwhoring? He had more than 2 caps and very few defends which means he wasn't camping. Maybe he was trying to win intially but just couldn't get over the hump, so he decided to try and slay. Are you saying you've never ever had a good score and lost?


I know he was killwhoring because i was in the game against him >_>

He spent all his time inside or on top of our building on plaza. Never saw him near B once. I've had good scores and lost, but i've never lost with anywhere near that low of a number of deaths.

And only 2 defends? are you kidding me. It's not like we blew him out and he had no chance to defend flags, he simply chose not to.
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