Do you think there should be a perk that counters VSAT?

#21dario1101Posted 4/1/2013 8:23:17 AM
Cysi posted...
TheRedKirby posted...
BeastlyIguana posted...
No, the VSAT shouldn't exist at all. It is absolutely100% broken playing with a full party all using VSAT.



It lasts as long as a UAV. And what the hell are the odds of a full party having VSATs?


If it's a full party pubstomping, very high.


My friend friends do that, and I usually just chuck EMP grenades at them when i'm on the other team. >_>
Oh wow, using Hardwired with VSAT disables Counter-Uavs and EMP? Wow! Thats a good combo!
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#22SevenDayCandlePosted 4/1/2013 8:32:10 AM
dario1101 posted...
Cysi posted...
TheRedKirby posted...
BeastlyIguana posted...
No, the VSAT shouldn't exist at all. It is absolutely100% broken playing with a full party all using VSAT.



It lasts as long as a UAV. And what the hell are the odds of a full party having VSATs?


If it's a full party pubstomping, very high.


My friend friends do that, and I usually just chuck EMP grenades at them when i'm on the other team. >_>
Oh wow, using Hardwired with VSAT disables Counter-Uavs and EMP? Wow! Thats a good combo!


So yea, VSAT has no real counters... Yet almost everything else (except Guardians and Sentries, but those are easily EMP'd from across the map) have a counter.
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#23roach06Posted 4/1/2013 8:34:24 AM
SevenDayCandle posted...
dario1101 posted...
Cysi posted...
TheRedKirby posted...
BeastlyIguana posted...
No, the VSAT shouldn't exist at all. It is absolutely100% broken playing with a full party all using VSAT.



It lasts as long as a UAV. And what the hell are the odds of a full party having VSATs?


If it's a full party pubstomping, very high.


My friend friends do that, and I usually just chuck EMP grenades at them when i'm on the other team. >_>
Oh wow, using Hardwired with VSAT disables Counter-Uavs and EMP? Wow! Thats a good combo!


So yea, VSAT has no real counters... Yet almost everything else (except Guardians and Sentries, but those are easily EMP'd from across the map) have a counter.


dogs
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#24SquireRamzaPosted 4/1/2013 8:40:09 AM
The existence of Hard Wired does not mean that the VSAT has no counters. It means that the counters to VSAT themselves have counters. This is a substantial difference. Considering I need to forego either Toughness or Scavenger to run Hard Wired (or, worse, use Greed, requiring foregoing two slots) I think it's fair to say that the cost of making my VSAT "uncounterable" is fairly steep, to the point that it is at best a fair trade.

Additionally, the entire team would need to be running Hard Wired to make a Counter-UAV or EMP "useless." Don't know how often that happens, but I'd be happy to run into a full team using neither Toughness or Scavenger just to squeeze a little more value out of a scorestreak that already requires 1200 points.
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#25MleviePosted 4/1/2013 8:43:10 AM
How about they bring back decoy grenades. That way the VSAT will still work as intended and the other team will have a small chance to distract them, Maybe even let the decoys work against the hunter killer if thrown close enough to it.
#26SevenDayCandlePosted 4/1/2013 8:44:28 AM
Last I recall, you can EMP grenade dogs... lol. Then pick them off for 50 points each.
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#27TheRedKirbyPosted 4/1/2013 9:10:07 AM
Lmao decoy grenades were fun as s*** to use. I'm disappointed that Treyarch didn't bring those back.
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#28slaveanselmoPosted 4/1/2013 9:24:46 AM
Bullets counter Dogs.
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#29IlluminoiusPosted 4/1/2013 10:48:41 AM
dogs
#30SevenDayCandlePosted 4/1/2013 10:51:20 AM
SevenDayCandle posted...
Last I recall, you can EMP grenade dogs... lol. Then pick them off for 50 points each.

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