Hot Topic: Let's break down Quickscoping.

#1Oblivion_SlayerPosted 9/7/2013 7:45:32 AM
It seems there have been lots of topic today about Quickscoping, many of them claiming it takes l33t sk33lz. I think it's quite the contrary. Lets break it down.

What is Quickscoping: In BO2 at least, it's spotting an enemy, standing still (for that near 100% accuracy), holding LT until your scope JUST hits your eye, then popping off a shot. We all know this, we're not stupid.

So the real question is... which of these steps requires skill? Because the way I see it, you do the exact same steps that you could do with any other gun (except standing still). Want to know why it works so well? Snipers are typically OSK. That's it. That is it my friends.

I can pull out a FAL, you use your DSR, and we stand 10m apart. We both do the same steps: Stand still, line up a shot, LT, RT. You will win every time, because of your skills yeah? No. Because snipers are (typically) OSK.

To the people who say "If its that easy, why doesn't every quickscoper have 61.9K/D", you are forgetting two things. One, almost every gun in the game raises its sights faster and can hit you way before you pop off that OSK. Two, if you miss (we all do), you die.

Tl;dr Quickscoping takes no more skill than anything else.
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#2HamJabroniPosted 9/7/2013 7:47:32 AM
1)flinch
2) it takes a while to line up your shot and ads
3) much less forgiving
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#3fatclemenzaPosted 9/7/2013 7:50:58 AM
From: Oblivion_Slayer | #001
One, almost every gun in the game raises its sights faster and can hit you way before you pop off that OSK. Two, if you miss (we all do), you die.

Tl;dr Quickscoping takes no more skill than anything else.

These two statements contradict. If you genuinely think its no harder to clear a hardpoint with a FAL than it is a DSR then I don't know what to tell you
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#4Oblivion_Slayer(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 7:53:05 AM
HamJabroni posted...
1)flinch
2) it takes a while to line up your shot and ads
3) much less forgiving


Every gun suffers from flinch.

Every gun has an ADS time, and lining up shots is all down to sensitivity and motor control.

Less forgiving? The only way it's less forgiving is if you miss. Apart from that, it forgives you in so many ways. Quickscoping (not sniping) is all about Aim Assist. Without it, you will fail. How is that unforgiving? The game is giving you something so that you CAN Quickscope, it is helping you in almost every way. Try it without, go for it. In fact, 1v1 anyone with you using a sniper without AA vs someone using an SMG without. Guess who will win, every time.
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#5HamJabroniPosted 9/7/2013 7:54:50 AM
Oblivion_Slayer posted...
HamJabroni posted...
1)flinch
2) it takes a while to line up your shot and ads
3) much less forgiving


Every gun suffers from flinch.

Every gun has an ADS time, and lining up shots is all down to sensitivity and motor control.

Less forgiving? The only way it's less forgiving is if you miss. Apart from that, it forgives you in so many ways. Quickscoping (not sniping) is all about Aim Assist. Without it, you will fail. How is that unforgiving? The game is giving you something so that you CAN Quickscope, it is helping you in almost every way. Try it without, go for it. In fact, 1v1 anyone with you using a sniper without AA vs someone using an SMG without. Guess who will win, every time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjQdLOeNZA
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#6Oblivion_Slayer(Topic Creator)Posted 9/7/2013 7:58:16 AM
You kill in one bullet. One. You use the same method of killing as every other weapon. Find, aim, shoot. How in any way does that take "more skill".
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#7Donuts_R_GoodPosted 9/7/2013 8:03:05 AM
I'd love to see the quickscoper use their "skill" if aim assist was completely off.

Oh wait, they wouldn't be able to, because that's all quickscoping is. Aim assist.
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#8HamJabroniPosted 9/7/2013 8:05:04 AM
Donuts_R_Good posted...
I'd love to see the quickscoper use their "skill" if aim assist was completely off.

Oh wait, they wouldn't be able to, because that's all quickscoping is. Aim assist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjQdLOeNZA
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#9fatclemenzaPosted 9/7/2013 8:08:06 AM
From: HamJabroni | #005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLjQdLOeNZA

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From: Oblivion_Slayer | #006
You kill in one bullet. One. You use the same method of killing as every other weapon. Find, aim, shoot. How in any way does that take "more skill".

Because you get 30 rounds of automatic fire. The sniper gets 1, if that at all since they should be dead before they scope in
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#10BIueberriesPosted 9/7/2013 8:12:22 AM
Donuts_R_Good posted...
I'd love to see the quickscoper use their "skill" if aim assist was completely off.

Oh wait, they wouldn't be able to, because that's all quickscoping is. Aim assist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjHIP31onyE

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