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#11the13thhereticPosted 2/1/2013 10:23:23 AM
Busard posted...
That AD build isn't that good.

Dragon's Horde and Rohirrim Ride relics with 4% damage and 4% attack gems.
It gives 53% damage and 42% attack speed at level 14.

With Gollum that means:
- vs 20% resistance = 366.4 dps (against 275.2 with your penetration build)
- vs 40% resistance = 274.8 dps (against 263.75 with penetration)
- vs 75% resistance =114.5 dps (against 243.7 with penetration)
And if you use 2 penetration gems instead of attack gems, you get: 356, 278 and 141 respectively.


The way I read it wasn't so much that they were optimizing the build, it was just to show the difference between pure damage and attack pen.
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#12OleDirtyD(Topic Creator)Posted 2/1/2013 10:52:33 AM
the13thheretic posted...
Busard posted...
That AD build isn't that good.

Dragon's Horde and Rohirrim Ride relics with 4% damage and 4% attack gems.
It gives 53% damage and 42% attack speed at level 14.

With Gollum that means:
- vs 20% resistance = 366.4 dps (against 275.2 with your penetration build)
- vs 40% resistance = 274.8 dps (against 263.75 with penetration)
- vs 75% resistance =114.5 dps (against 243.7 with penetration)
And if you use 2 penetration gems instead of attack gems, you get: 356, 278 and 141 respectively.


The way I read it wasn't so much that they were optimizing the build, it was just to show the difference between pure damage and attack pen.


exactly, not a min/max build, just a good reference for pen vs dam, which he handled pretty well.
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#13BusardPosted 2/1/2013 12:15:05 PM
the13thheretic posted...
The way I read it wasn't so much that they were optimizing the build, it was just to show the difference between pure damage and attack pen.

The penetration build was somehow optimized (it had +36% damage which is half what the pure damage build got and didn't cap penetration at 90). To make a good comparison, the damage build had to be somehow optimized too; otherwise it's biased.

I mean, that spreadsheet would make you think the turning point where penetration is better is around 25% resistance while it is in fact more like around 45% resistance (and even more if you go for the boss that gives penetration near the bottom lane or know how to use the Smite command).
#14OleDirtyD(Topic Creator)Posted 2/1/2013 1:31:38 PM
Busard posted...
the13thheretic posted...
The way I read it wasn't so much that they were optimizing the build, it was just to show the difference between pure damage and attack pen.

The penetration build was somehow optimized (it had +36% damage which is half what the pure damage build got and didn't cap penetration at 90). To make a good comparison, the damage build had to be somehow optimized too; otherwise it's biased.

I mean, that spreadsheet would make you think the turning point where penetration is better is around 25% resistance while it is in fact more like around 45% resistance (and even more if you go for the boss that gives penetration near the bottom lane or know how to use the Smite command).


its whats called a base set. very controlled, limited factors. no potions, shrines, bosses,commands etc.(which would of course change those numbers). should be easy enough to implement your build with a lil math. whats AD percentage would you like to know? regardless, that damage would be cut by 75% with max resist. ill do a lil number crunching for you and see what i come up with.
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