Remember this trailer?

#11koopabros64Posted 9/8/2013 2:20:09 PM
Sony_7 posted...
Game Weasel posted...
Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
How did they cop out?


I'll second this. The trailer seems to have shown exactly what we got. What was the cop out?
Unless you mean the fact that they didn't have this just be a singular universe where some of the JL went nutso, 'cause they're never going to tell that story without having a good JLA from a parallel 'verse come in to stop them.


Ya, that's the cop out. Story would have had more meaning/higher stakes if it was just one universe.


I don't see how it would have had more meaning/higher stakes. Everything that happens in that universe still affects the people living there.
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#12DarthMummyPosted 9/8/2013 2:46:38 PM
koopabros64 posted...
Sony_7 posted...
Game Weasel posted...
Cthulhu_Fhtagn posted...
How did they cop out?


I'll second this. The trailer seems to have shown exactly what we got. What was the cop out?
Unless you mean the fact that they didn't have this just be a singular universe where some of the JL went nutso, 'cause they're never going to tell that story without having a good JLA from a parallel 'verse come in to stop them.


Ya, that's the cop out. Story would have had more meaning/higher stakes if it was just one universe.


I don't see how it would have had more meaning/higher stakes. Everything that happens in that universe still affects the people living there.


There would have been higher stakes because the insurgents don't have an extra Batman and Superman to rely on. Plus, if the Regime wins, it's final. The AU fighters don't retreat into their own universe and come back later. As it stands, the Regime are the underdogs because the good guys have all the fighters they do and more. The "regular" universe characters will come back to life if they die, because that's how things work for them.

Instead of being a personal, visceral story with one set of characters and intimate, human relationships, the struggle of a hopelessly vulnerable Insurgency led by Batman against a global Regime led by a tragic take on Superman, it becomes just another evil AU from the POV of a plot-armored, goody-two-shoes, invincible JL. The following is why this doesn't work and is bad:

In the Justice League episode "A Better World", the Justice Lords were used as a mirror of the JL that reveals their totalitarian potential and foreshadows Amanda Waller's designs. The Justice Lords are there to reveal something about the Justice League.

Here, the Justice Lords analogue (Regime) are the focus of the story. Adding the AU hero characters was pointless and served to neuter the desperate, emotional, tragic tale that could have been.

The story was not salvageable because consequence was removed for the sake of having "normal" heroes save the day. Very, very, very disappointing.
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#13LordRattergunPosted 9/8/2013 3:52:02 PM
DarthMummy posted...
There would have been higher stakes because the insurgents don't have an extra Batman and Superman to rely on. Plus, if the Regime wins, it's final. The AU fighters don't retreat into their own universe and come back later. As it stands, the Regime are the underdogs because the good guys have all the fighters they do and more. The "regular" universe characters will come back to life if they die, because that's how things work for them.

Instead of being a personal, visceral story with one set of characters and intimate, human relationships, the struggle of a hopelessly vulnerable Insurgency led by Batman against a global Regime led by a tragic take on Superman, it becomes just another evil AU from the POV of a plot-armored, goody-two-shoes, invincible JL. The following is why this doesn't work and is bad:

In the Justice League episode "A Better World", the Justice Lords were used as a mirror of the JL that reveals their totalitarian potential and foreshadows Amanda Waller's designs. The Justice Lords are there to reveal something about the Justice League.

Here, the Justice Lords analogue (Regime) are the focus of the story. Adding the AU hero characters was pointless and served to neuter the desperate, emotional, tragic tale that could have been.

The story was not salvageable because consequence was removed for the sake of having "normal" heroes save the day. Very, very, very disappointing.


This is all true.

However, Supez still ends the story being #1, so it works out for the best.
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