4 Kage vs Itachi and Nagato Edo Battle

#1TriAceNovaPosted 2/2/2013 3:51:28 AM
Muu and the other 3 Kage vs Healthy Itachi and Young Nagato.
Who wins and why? Nothing is off limits so long as its a fact.
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#2Bestia_SomniaPosted 2/2/2013 4:17:31 AM
- Susano'o? Dust Release will easily destroy it. The mirror shield won't mean much because the explosion happens from all angles and happens so fast that Nagato won't have time to absorb it. I also have no doubts that Akumakage's finger spear could easily slice through Susano'o. Gaara's Dad could also easily place his gold dust underground and attack Susano'o from underneath, holding Itachi in place and making him incapable of avoiding all the bombardment he and Nagato would be receiving.

- Chibaku Tensei? Dust Release will destroy it.

- Nagato's sensing abilities and Itachi's sharingan sight? Won't be able to detect Muu's invisibility because only really movement-detecting sensing methods can find him.

- Nagato's summonings? Fodder for Akumakage to cut down. Even without him, the summonings are just in the way of Itachi's Susano'o

You also have to factor in constant bombardment from Jokey Boy.

The Kages take it easily. Itachi and Nagato are getting nuked. GG
#3DiZ0XPosted 2/2/2013 6:39:03 AM
I don't think you're giving Itachi and Nagato to enough credit when you say that it would be easy ^

In the end this is Kishi's manga and if a fight like that were to be written, the side with the Uchiha would take the win no doubt.

But you're forgetting that Itachi is strategic and isn't going to just use something that he knows isn't going to work VS his enemies. And 93.67% of the time, he is fighting through genjutsu so that'll be quite troublesome for the past Kage too.

Nagato's abilities should be undermined either :\
#4Bestia_SomniaPosted 2/2/2013 7:06:58 AM
DiZ0X posted...
I don't think you're giving Itachi and Nagato to enough credit when you say that it would be easy ^

In the end this is Kishi's manga and if a fight like that were to be written, the side with the Uchiha would take the win no doubt.

But you're forgetting that Itachi is strategic and isn't going to just use something that he knows isn't going to work VS his enemies. And 93.67% of the time, he is fighting through genjutsu so that'll be quite troublesome for the past Kage too.

Nagato's abilities should be undermined either :\


Strategy only goes so far when overwhelmed by H4X

Itachi can't decide to not do what won't work on his enemies, if he doesn't know it won't work.

As for Genjutsu, Clamkage will have the two of them in Genjutsu. Itachi won't be able to reverse it because it's an unconvential kind of Genjutsu like Tayuya's sound Genjutsu. Even if he can somehow break it. Just that moment of realising he's in a Genjutsu and breaking it, will be the only seconds needed for Muu to nuke them.
#5laskalPosted 2/2/2013 7:30:22 AM(edited)
Shinra Tensei can deal with Dust release and Raikage's close quarters assaults. Itachi's Amaterasu would keep ranged pressure on them, and can be really deadly since I doubt kages even heard about the attack. Can easily catch one of them off guard.
Then there's things like Tsukuyomi, that can even alter time perception, Summons that can act rather independently, allowing for a distraction.
Partial Susano'o (rib cage for example) would also be helpful against quick attacks that other wise can catch you of guard, like Water Gun/Bullet/whatever that Mizukage's pew attack is called.
Whoever wins, it's going to be a close call for everyone.
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#6UltimaXOmegaPosted 2/2/2013 7:34:14 AM
Nagato solos.
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#7Bestia_SomniaPosted 2/2/2013 8:02:26 AM
laskal posted...
Shinra Tensei can deal with Dust release and Raikage's close quarters assaults. Itachi's Amaterasu would keep ranged pressure on them, and can be really deadly since I doubt kages even heard about the attack. Can easily catch one of them off guard.
Then there's things like Tsukuyomi, that can even alter time perception, Summons that can act rather independently, allowing for a distraction.
Partial Susano'o (rib cage for example) would also be helpful against quick attacks that other wise can catch you of guard, like Water Gun/Bullet/whatever that Mizukage's pew attack is called.
Whoever wins, it's going to be a close call for everyone.


Shinra Tensei wouldn't work against Dust release. The technique is instant once released, Nagato wouldn't be able to lift up his hands in time. Even if he someone could react in time, the Dust technique is pure particles. It has no mass to repel.

Itachi can't risk focusing his eyes on someone for a moment, not when he's got blitzing speed enemies on him. Amaterasu wouldn't help much. Why wouldn't the Kage know of the tecnique? It's a technique that Madara had and Muu should know of him and the legends.

Sasuke blinked for a moment and Ay had him smacked like a *****. Itachi goes to use Amaterasu and Akumakage is gonna have his head. Unlike Ay, Akumakage is going to have no trouble cutting through a Susano'o and no one is going to be surviving a single direct hit from him.

Nagato and Itachi are going to surrounded by enemies with massive nuking attacks. They can't constantly watch their backs all the time whilst being bombarded.
#8KawakamiGensaiPosted 2/2/2013 10:29:05 AM
Agree with UltimaXOmega >_<

here's some support for team eye h4x, in no particular order

1. Nagato doesn't need to make any physical movements to perform shinra tensei. We don't really know how fast he can activate it but he has used it 'on reaction' to things (shuriken, rasengan, rasen-shuriken, etc). I'll try not to bring real world physics into that whole bit, but particles do have mass...and as far as I understand them, dust release techniques seem to be made of chakra which can separate (destroy?) things on the molecular level.

2. With the help of summons, Nagato can fly. Itachi can hitch a ride. After that....only Muu could chase them, right? Other kage would be limited to long range attacks.

3. To be fair, Itachi's susanoo has never been broken by force. There might be a reason for that. We're told that its shield is a legendary item (i.e. no one else possesses it) which can deflect any attack. Could simply be hype, but the point still stands.

4. We know that Nagato can in fact absorb dust release with the gaki dou power. Madara did it. I don't think reaction is an issue with that one, either. Nagato avoided all the effects of a v2 lariat from Bee while they were both flying/being launched through the air at pretty high speed. (the mechanics of that scene are weird, but you get the point)

SCHIGGITY SCHWAGGITY SCHFIFTY-5. Are they under the effects of edo tensei? Couldn't tell by the topic title, but if they really are all 'edos', then none of this matters. The only two who can even finish the fight are Itachi and Nagato. There're only a handful of techniques able to defeat an edo zombie for good: sealing, soul-sucking and incapacitating genjutsu.

as far as we know, none of the kage really have those. Between them, Itachi and Nagato have all three >_<''

gg?
#9deidara21Posted 2/2/2013 12:39:16 PM
Also only Itachi knows how to destroy chibaku tensei >_> even Kurama with all his knowledge did not know how to.
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#10Bestia_SomniaPosted 2/2/2013 3:13:32 PM
deidara21 posted...
Also only Itachi knows how to destroy chibaku tensei >_> even Kurama with all his knowledge did not know how to.


lol wut? Only Itachi knows? He did not know. He made an assumption - an obvious conclusion because it's not like attacking the Chibaku Tensei itself was some super genius move.

Kurama never encountered Chibaku Tensei. 6TK Naruto is not Kurama in control, it's just a mindless beast.