I'm lvl31 with my warrior and I'm trying to learn tanking but it's a no go

#21giglamesh99Posted 8/23/2014 9:40:23 AM
Do not use macros. The only macro I use is to automatically use internal release when I hit heavy swing. You don't want a full macro because you need to switch targets to maintain hate.

Use overpower twice, then use your enmity combo on different targets. Heavy swing on your main, skull sunder on number 2, then butcher block on number 3. Tab through targets to check your enmity rankings.
#22White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2014 10:13:22 AM
I had a terrible tanking experiene just now, so much so that I want to quit tanking.
I did Brayflox normal and everything went alright, I had forgotten the instance but the group was nice enough to guide me through, for one I am not the kind of person who can learn these levels by heart and memorize them all I just can't do that, I have so much real life stuff on my mind I do not have the mental capacity or energy to memorize every nook and cranny in a video game.

Either way, I believe my tanking was fine and others were cool with it too, not perfect but it was alright.

Then came the last boss, boy what a disaster that ended up being.

1. I seem to have latency issues mostly in these older instances, meaning avoiding some of the telegraphcs is pointless as even if I am very far from the telegraph I still get damage. A guy on LL just now suggested I install a fix/program for this so we'll see if that fixed anything.

2. I was supposed to move the boss away from the green goo so it doesn't heal itself. I did my best to move it but people kept saying it to move it...the boss is huge, the arena is small and I ran out of space to move the boss.

After 3-4 tries I apologized to the group and told them it's ok if they want to kick me out, they did without saying a word.
also one guy said I absolutely needed provoke and that as a tank I shouldn't even attempted this without it.

I understand I'm not cut out for tanking
But it was, I believe mostly due to techical difficulties that I couldn't do this fight right, getting hit by the poison breath despite being very far from the telegraph is to me a game breaking problem.
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#23paradisegamerPosted 8/23/2014 10:23:17 AM
God, your server sounds terrible. Provoke is most definitely not required for that fight at all. All provoke does is put you at the top of the enmity bar by +1. ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD EMNITY AS NORMAL. If this has changed any from the patches, please someone let me know. But this is how I understand it to work.

The correct strategy for that fight is to lure the Dragon around the edges of the arena, and then you have the entire room in the center to move, but by then, the edges should start disappearing. If played correctly, the boss should die before 1 full curcle pass of the arena anyway. I'm sorry you're having a negative experience. It's disconcerting. Tank is a very fun role, and I especially enjoy WAR.
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#24White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2014 10:25:34 AM
Yeah I was trying to keep it at the edges
I'm on Hyperion, plus aren't PUGs formed from people from different servers?
Either way the people were polite, but that's the best I could do.

If I wasn't rammed by the poison breath I probably would have been fine
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#25paradisegamerPosted 8/23/2014 10:36:06 AM
Yeah PUGs are game-wide. Was unsure how you were joining up. Brayflox always has parties grouping outside it, as it's a fast way to get from 30-35 before heading to the Highlands. Anyway... You should be able to get slammed by anything the boss can throw at you other than blatant cone or aoe and do fine. Hell, I've solo tank'd cancer with just mages covering my ass and lived through it twice now, not even grouped.

I stand right in that dragon's face and take poison breath to my face all day. But my friend IRL is a WHM and we always roll together. He never let's me die and esunas me like a pro in between heals.
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#26White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2014 10:40:12 AM
Well I did avoid some poison but the healer couldn't keep up maybe and the DPS guys would start dying out, then I'd die and so on.
I don't know if it was my fault or if it was lack of DPS or healing, I have no idea but they made it seem like i was at fault and i believe i was

either way it was stressful, I have fun tanking but being in groups is stressful to me in games hence why i keep to myself, dps is fine tho

we'll see how things go
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#27paradisegamerPosted 8/23/2014 10:45:40 AM
Was the Dragon moving away from you ever? Other than those attacks you can't ever prevent because they're scripted? If not, then it was not your fault and was probably DPS not running an effective rotation to burn down the boss fast enough or healers burning through mana without thinking ahead. This is honestly one of the easiest encounters the whole dungeon. I had bigger issues with the mini boss section.
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#28ShaneJPosted 8/23/2014 10:47:15 AM
What server do you happen to be on?
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#29paradisegamerPosted 8/23/2014 10:48:46 AM
He's on hyperion
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#30White Wolf Kiba(Topic Creator)Posted 8/23/2014 10:50:32 AM
The dragon for the first 2-3 tries wasn't moving away from me at all and it would target me with the poison, the healer kept telling me to avoid poison as much as i could so i tried doing that but due to my issues which i dont know when/if it will ever be fixed it was a hit or miss.
I've played long enough to know to avoid telegraphs as soon as they pop up.

Then when i'd die a few times from poison they'd res me, problem with that was that after ressurection my TP was almost fully drained and the dragon would focus on someone else by then.
I tried getting aggro back that one time and it wouldn't work, flash + overpower with defiance on wouldn't phase the dragon, so I was told i needed provoke and as a tank I shouldn't be without it ever.

I dunno, at first for the first 2-3 tries the dragon was fully focused on me
the rest i can't even remember it was too stressful and too hectic for me lol
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