Do you think Kingdom Hearts ruined Final Fantasy?

#61theofficefan99Posted 11/18/2012 9:34:44 AM
"The Final Fantasy series and several specific games within it have been credited for introducing and popularizing many concepts that are today widely used in console RPGs.[3][86] The original title is often cited as one of the most influential early console RPGs, and played a major role in legitimizing and popularizing the genre. Prior to the series, RPGs featured one-on-one battles against monsters from a first-person perspective. Final Fantasy introduced a side view perspective with groups of monsters against a group of characters that has been frequently imitated.[3][68][86] It also introduced an early evolving class change system,[183][184] as well as different methods of transportation, including a ship, canoe, and flying airship.[185] Final Fantasy II was the first sequel in the industry to omit characters and locations from the previous title.[5] It also introduced an activity-based progression system,[186] which has been used in later RPG series such as SaGa,[187] Grandia,[188] and The Elder Scrolls.[186] Final Fantasy III introduced the job system, a character progression engine allowing the player to change character classes, as well as acquire new and advanced classes and combine class abilities, at any time during the game.[189] Final Fantasy IV is considered a milestone for the genre, introducing a dramatic storyline with a strong emphasis on character development and personal relationships.[190] Final Fantasy VII is credited as having the largest industry impact of the series,[87] and with allowing console role-playing games to gain mass-market appeal.[191]
The series affected Square's business on several levels. The commercial failure of Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within resulted in hesitation and delays from Enix during merger discussions with Square.[39][68] Square's decision to produce games exclusively for the Sony PlayStation—a move followed by Enix's decision with the Dragon Quest series—severed their relationship with Nintendo.[3][86] Final Fantasy games were absent from Nintendo consoles, specifically the Nintendo 64, for seven years.[73][87] Critics attribute the switch of strong third-party titles like the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest games to Sony's PlayStation, and away from the Nintendo 64, as one of the reasons behind PlayStation being the more successful of the two consoles.[3][86][90] The release of the Nintendo GameCube, which used optical disc media, in 2001 caught the attention of Square. To produce games for the system, Square created the shell company The Game Designers Studio and released Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, which spawned its own metaseries within the main franchise.[29] Final Fantasy XI's lack of an online method of subscription cancellation prompted the creation of legislation in Illinois that requires internet gaming services to provide such a method to the state's residents.[192]
The series' popularity has resulted in its appearance and reference in numerous facets of popular culture like anime, TV series, and webcomics.[193][194][195] Music from the series has permeated into different areas of culture. Final Fantasy IV's "Theme of Love" was integrated into the curriculum of Japanese school children and has been performed live by orchestras and metal bands.[196] In 2003, Uematsu became involved with The Black Mages, a rock group independent of Square that has released albums of arranged Final Fantasy tunes.[197][198] Bronze medalists Alison Bartosik and Anna Kozlova performed their synchronized swimming routine at the 2004 Summer Olympics to music from Final Fantasy VIII.[151] Many of the titles' official soundtracks have been released for sale as well. Numerous companion books, which normally provide in-depth game information, have been published. In Japan, they are published by Square and are called Ultimania books.[199][200] In North America, they take the form of standard strategy guides."
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#62theofficefan99Posted 11/18/2012 9:35:20 AM(edited)
BuddhHA0991 posted...
theofficefan99 posted...


In your opinion. But your opinion is not the majority opinion, which is what I'm getting at.


My opinion is better than yours anyways. FF stopped being really good after X.


LOL. Go be a child somewhere else.
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#63BuddhHA0991Posted 11/18/2012 9:35:19 AM
So not reading that.

And XIII saga is a perfect testament that FF fallen from it's glory.
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#64BuddhHA0991Posted 11/18/2012 9:35:52 AM
theofficefan99 posted...
BuddhHA0991 posted...
theofficefan99 posted...


In your opinion. But your opinion is not the majority opinion, which is what I'm getting at.


My opinion is better than yours anyways. FF stopped being really good after X.


LOL. Go be a child somewhere else.




CGI is the biggest waste of resources in history of video games.
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#65DragoonGriffithPosted 11/18/2012 9:37:38 AM
kupo1705 posted...

You don't have to dance in negotiations.


Besides that being amusing in P2, you also have a variety of options left as to how to get close to a demon and gain his respect.
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#66kupo1705Posted 11/18/2012 9:38:11 AM
DragoonGriffith posted...
kupo1705 posted...

You don't have to dance in negotiations.


Besides that being amusing in P2, you also have a variety of options left as to how to get close to a demon and gain his respect.


Which includes dancing and seducing them.
#67DragoonGriffithPosted 11/18/2012 9:39:13 AM
kupo1705 posted...

Which includes dancing and seducing them.


Which I don't see what the problem with that is.
It's not like the girls get naked all of a sudden or something.
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#68BuddhHA0991Posted 11/18/2012 9:39:56 AM
DragoonGriffith posted...
kupo1705 posted...

Which includes dancing and seducing them.


Which I don't see what the problem with that is.
It's not like the girls get naked all of a sudden or something.


Like in a certain game kupo likes to play.
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#69theofficefan99Posted 11/18/2012 9:40:49 AM(edited)
BuddhHA0991 posted...
theofficefan99 posted...
BuddhHA0991 posted...
theofficefan99 posted...


In your opinion. But your opinion is not the majority opinion, which is what I'm getting at.


My opinion is better than yours anyways. FF stopped being really good after X.


LOL. Go be a child somewhere else.




CGI is the biggest waste of resources in history of video games.


lol, that has nothing to do with anything in this topic... at all.

And is that really all you have to say? Pathetic.

And I find it strange that you say this considering that there are plenty of SMT games that use CGI and anime for key moments of the plot just like in Final Fantasy.

And also, that's actually very false. CGI improved storytelling for video games.
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#70kupo1705Posted 11/18/2012 9:40:42 AM
DragoonGriffith posted...
kupo1705 posted...

Which includes dancing and seducing them.


Which I don't see what the problem with that is.
It's not like the girls get naked all of a sudden or something.


You don't seduce someone in negotiations.
You do when you are dating someone.