Final Fantasy XIII-2: Fragments After

#431chaosflame108Posted 2/15/2013 1:56:46 PM
That's irrelevant. He failed his focus. The event in which he was supposed to be present happened without him being there. The solution I'm seeing is that someone else changed his focus to stop him from turning Cie'th.

I don't believe you can actually fail a focus, only run out of time. Otherwise, Serah would have instantly ciethifide when the crew showed up at the Vestige without Fang.
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#432Elice_CarolPosted 2/15/2013 2:26:26 PM
Snow's focus was changed? If you think that happened, then the reason why is that Shadow Yeul overrode it after trapping Snow within the Coliseum. If she's capable of changing the fal'Cie's will, then she is of a power beyond theirs.

I'm just coming to more conclusions with my theory, you know? But, I'm not sure about this particular one until we see the translations for Snow's chapter.
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#433hyro56Posted 2/15/2013 2:44:51 PM
chaosflame108 posted...
I don't believe you can actually fail a focus, only run out of time. Otherwise, Serah would have instantly ciethifide when the crew showed up at the Vestige without Fang.


That's a poor example. Her focus was never given any specifics IIRC. She only had to gather people to be made into l'Cie. Her focus wasn't to untie Ragnarok. (Vanille & Fang) Furthermore, Etro forced Serah into crystal stasis at that moment didn't she?
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#434Hakurou(Topic Creator)Posted 2/15/2013 3:03:56 PM
pg 60

There was a meaning to all of them and they all had aspirations. Etro loved all of them equally. Even if she had returned she would not be happy, now that she had seen herself so selfishly take those lives that were to be treated with importance. No doubt she would not enjoy anything, no matter what she did or saw, all the while tormented until the day she died by the feeling of powerlessness and her sins.

"I'm staying here. I will stay here and fight."

"Do what you wish," a voice said wrought with laughter, however she did not see the man anymore. Was it a vision that Caius, who had been given a mighty power, had shown her or was this the man who she was to meet?

Since then, she had fought many times. In Valhalla, it was forever while at the same time just a moment. She no longer knew where it had started or where it would end, upon this battlefield bankrupt of time in which the future and past mixed. However, in the midst of the fight Lightning would reunite with Serah. That was something that she did not see in the time from the Goddess' throne. There Serah was trapped in a prison called Empty Solitude and she never returned. But she believed, she believed that Serah would definitely escape from the world of that dream should unending dream. That's why she called Serah, that's why she sought help from her.

When they were children, Lightning was the one who chased off the bully who made Serah cry, but after that, Serah reconciled in her own way with the boy and placated him. Lightning could not forget when she saw that bully in Serah's group of friends. It was always like that. Unlike Lightning who tried to take shortcuts and utilize brute force, Serah took time taking the long way around. And before you knew it, everyone favored her and there were many that would amass to help her.

Serah would surely overcome this trial as well. The long, long journey would toughen up Serah. She would also meet people who would be of aid to her. There was Noel, who had wished to change the future and the moogle, dubbed the weakest of Valhalla, who had become a weapon to defeat Bahamut, the strongest of Valhalla.

"It will be fine, we'll see each other again."

And her hopes did not betray her...

"How naive. That is much to optimistic and egotistical even for the wish of someone who's going to die."

The sound of a blade returned her to her senses. No matter how many times she crossed swords with Caius Ballad, she could not understand him. Only her memories and thoughts were being read while Caius gave a cold laugh. His heart was enveloped in something akin to a tough husk that was stained pitch-black. Maybe he, whom had been given an undying body by the Godess and who had lived through many moons, had no other way to protect his heart besides this way. Sometimes only a hate and rage much like a world-ending conflagration would spill forth from a slight tear, along with a freezing sadness.

"Or quite possibly, could the guardian of a foolish goddess also be a fool herself?"
#435Hakurou(Topic Creator)Posted 2/15/2013 3:16:11 PM
pg 62

"Shut up!"

"She did well... I'll give her that. But her journey did not end there, so she must furthermore walk along a path of hardship. However, what awaits her at the end of her journey is only despair, for her dream of living with her beloved sister again, will never be realized."

Lightning had decided to stay, so she already knew this. Those who protect the shrine cannot leave Valhalla. She crossed over to the "Other Side" to reunite with Serah, but this was only for a moment. That was all she could muster.

"Her journey was made longer only to make her sad, only to make her bear witness to the end of the world. Such poor treatment of one's sister."

"I told you to shut up!"

With all her strength, Lightning flung her sword downward, but Caius' body was no longer there.

"How will you answer to her lamentations? How will you atone?"

Lightning heard a voice rife with ridicule at her back.

"The world will not end. I won't let it!"

She did not see everything from the Goddess' throne. In the things she had not seen from the throne at that time, there lies hope. She did not see hope at that time. This is why she believed.

"The future will change. I'll see to it that it does. That'll be my atonement!"

For those that died by her hand and for Serah, to whom she could not keep her promise. This is why she had to stop this man. Even if it was in exchange for her life. Placing her prayers and wishes into her blade, Lightning slashed at Cauis Ballad.

"Serah... Can I ever make things right?"
#436mahroflcopterPosted 2/15/2013 4:26:41 PM(edited)
I know I said I'd leave but this board keeps pulling me back...

Honest to God, can they glorify Serah any more than they already have at this point? Everyone loves her, people flock to her, she wants nothing but to save the world, she's a great teacher, she's a good little sister, she sacrifices herself without any apprehension, she's basically the center of the XIII universe, she's pretty much Lightning and Snow's main motivation, she's selfless, she's caring, she's kind, she can overcome anything, she's smart, she's "mature beyond her years", she's a great student, even in death she's "on a journey to save all", she had enough will to break out of the "Mirror World" or whatever that place of happiness was called when Noel and countless millions of other people didn't, she put up a better fight than Noel even though she had only started fighting the day before and Noel had been fighting all his life... I could go on all day! And She Has No Flaws! None whatsoever! . You'd be hard pressed to find a single flaw in this girl.

Honest to God, that's all the Lightning Saga is: A massive wank fest to Serah Farron.

And poor Lightning. She's basically been demonized at this point. She's blamed for everything, she's cast as a terrible sinner, made to look unrefined and almost brutish compared to her little sister, and the list goes on.
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#437LolOkayPosted 2/15/2013 5:32:20 PM
mahroflcopter posted...
I know I said I'd leave but this board keeps pulling me back...

Honest to God, can they glorify Serah any more than they already have at this point? Everyone loves her, people flock to her, she wants nothing but to save the world, she's a great teacher, she's a good little sister, she sacrifices herself without any apprehension, she's basically the center of the XIII universe, she's pretty much Lightning and Snow's main motivation, she's selfless, she's caring, she's kind, she can overcome anything, she's smart, she's "mature beyond her years", she's a great student, even in death she's "on a journey to save all", she had enough will to break out of the "Mirror World" or whatever that place of happiness was called when Noel and countless millions of other people didn't, she put up a better fight than Noel even though she had only started fighting the day before and Noel had been fighting all his life... I could go on all day! And She Has No Flaws! None whatsoever! . You'd be hard pressed to find a single flaw in this girl.

Honest to God, that's all the Lightning Saga is: A massive wank fest to Serah Farron.

And poor Lightning. She's basically been demonized at this point. She's blamed for everything, she's cast as a terrible sinner, made to look unrefined and almost brutish compared to her little sister, and the list goes on.


Why do you always complain and nitpick every time a new translation comes along?
#438HAAH_WAAWPosted 2/15/2013 5:40:26 PM
Yeah, Light is being too hard on herself. I mean, her kill count is only in the millions, after all. She can start being emo when she reaches 1 billion.
#439LolOkayPosted 2/15/2013 5:49:30 PM
HAAH_WAAW posted...
Yeah, Light is being too hard on herself. I mean, her kill count is only in the millions, after all. She can start being emo when she reaches 1 billion.


xD Seriously though, I kind of like how they've gone in a much more grey area with Light's feelings and morality. Whereas Etro sees things in almost black and white, what with each soul and sin being equal with no influence of circumstance. It shows a difference between humans and the fal'Cie's thoughts.
#440roxas9001Posted 2/15/2013 6:04:50 PM
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CommonMarySueTraits

Pick out Serah.
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