Is It Really Toriyama's Fault For "Ruining" The Series?

#41TheGreatPotatoPosted 2/3/2013 8:52:11 AM(edited)
The series is not ruined. Not yet, anyway.

As for Toriyama leading it to where it is now...kind of. He made 10-2, which gave us the sterile 12 in response, which in turn lead to 13. Massive development costs (SE are wildly inefficient) and Nomura's snail pace led to 13-2 and LR.

That said, he is a nutbar.
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#42BlueDragmirePosted 2/3/2013 8:52:48 AM
TheGreatPotato posted...
The series is not ruined. Not yet, anyway.

As for Toriyama leading it to where it is now...kind of. He made 10-2, which gave us the sterile 12 in response, which in turn lead to 13. Massive development costs (SE are wildly inefficient) and Nomura's snail pace led to 13-2 and LR.

That said, he is a nutbar.

FFXII was in development before FFX-2 was even conceived.
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#43zodiac_swordPosted 2/3/2013 8:53:26 AM
TheGreatPotato posted...
Nomura's snail pace led to 13-2 and LR.


13 led to 13-2 and LR.
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#44CokaineCowboy77Posted 2/3/2013 9:16:37 AM
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#45wafflepitarmPosted 2/3/2013 9:19:33 AM
Wada!
#46CokaineCowboy77Posted 2/3/2013 9:19:57 AM
Elice_Carol posted...
From: CokaineCowboy77 | #030
Of course Toriyama's not solely responsible, but he's definitely one of the main reason the games are so bad.


Did you even read his post? Don't scapegoat Toriyama just because he's at the helm, there are loads of people who can be linked to this.


Did you even read my post? I said he's not SOLELY responsible.
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#47TheGreatPotatoPosted 2/3/2013 9:23:59 AM
zodiac_sword posted...
TheGreatPotato posted...
Nomura's snail pace led to 13-2 and LR.


13 led to 13-2 and LR.


It sure did...

/gentlypats

Also learn how to quote.
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#48TheGreatPotatoPosted 2/3/2013 9:26:01 AM
BlueDragmire posted...
TheGreatPotato posted...
The series is not ruined. Not yet, anyway.

As for Toriyama leading it to where it is now...kind of. He made 10-2, which gave us the sterile 12 in response, which in turn lead to 13. Massive development costs (SE are wildly inefficient) and Nomura's snail pace led to 13-2 and LR.

That said, he is a nutbar.

FFXII was in development before FFX-2 was even conceived.


And? 10-2 was bat**** crazy, so 12 was probably made extra sterile. Because 12 was so empty and soulless, 13 came out with an actual story and characters, though with no proper exploration.
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#49Elice_CarolPosted 2/3/2013 9:27:44 AM
From: CokaineCowboy77 | #046
Did you even read my post? I said he's not SOLELY responsible.


But somehow he's still the "main reason" because of his role as director. in the game's development. From what I see, he's nothing but a spokesman for SE. Do you think you can delete your post without me knowing what you've said?
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#50CokaineCowboy77Posted 2/3/2013 9:46:50 AM
Elice_Carol posted...
From: CokaineCowboy77 | #046
Did you even read my post? I said he's not SOLELY responsible.


But somehow he's still the "main reason" because of his role as director. in the game's development. From what I see, he's nothing but a spokesman for SE. Do you think you can delete your post without me knowing what you've said?


ONE of the main reasons. Director is a big role you know.
I deleted my post because I didn't say what I wanted to say. It was still right though.
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