XIII is the most underrated game in the series.

#181theofficefan99Posted 2/13/2013 9:11:06 PM
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1.) I don't mean the whole myth, or Gods, or ideologically. But when it come to the very basics the story become an action version of X to me. And technically most of Spira support Yevon. And the...


1. Except it isn't, at all. In Final Fantasy X, the party has a clear goal in mind from the start, whereas in XIII, the party is lost and confused on what to do the whole way through. It's not similar at all.

That's grasping at straws. In Final Fantasy X, you never had regular citizens getting scared of the party or talking about how they want the party to die like in Final Fantasy XIII. The soldiers of Yevon were ...

It was just fighting and monster hunts... which is more fighting. XIII has no variety. That's an issue.


1.) Correct me if I am wrong. But in X, they were....
2.) Uh? How soon? Beside Rikku and Kimarhi? Because like I couldn't get into the othe....
-Excuses, excuses, Officefan. Most people use the internet anyway so hah!

3.) ...Really people have the heart to walk like 2 hours back to Luca from say Thunder Plains? Really? Whatever floats their boats.
-Wrong on the optional dungeons. And why would there be more Ediolons if only one per L'cie?


1. They were going to complete the pilgrimage as planned until they decided to kill Yunalesca. Then they changed their ways and were uncertain as to what to do. However, that doesn't mean that it's anything like XIII at all. In XIII, the entire world is against them from the beginning and they are uncertain on what to do the entirety of the game. The stories are not similar, and I honestly don't know why you think there are. There are pretty much zero similarities other than the highest form of government being corrupt.

2. Not too far into the game.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100227155641/finalfantasy/images/9/94/Final_Fantasy_10_Sphere_Grid.svg

Most characters start off on a linear path (aside from a few instances where they can unlock a few extra nodes), and then it splits, and there are obviously the rare unlock nodes that let you veer off of the path (though they're in a limited amount so not every character can do this).

Do you even know what an excuse is? >.> What is there to "Ha" at? I swear to God, you are one of the worst people to debate with. You never know what you're talking about, your sentences are nonsensical half of the time, and you often have random and unnecessary comments and you often use certain words or phrases incorrectly. I didn't make any "excuses" there and that doesn't excuse the game for making you blindly guess through the License Board. I'd imagine that most people will not find it appealing that they'll have to either guess their way through or look up the License Board online at frequent intervals. It's terrible and unintuitive either way. I have no clue why anyone would like it, especially since, on top of that, it makes you find AND buy spells/equipment/skills, which makes everything even more tedious, stupid and unintuitive.

3. Yes, some people do, and the fact that there is the option to and a reason to is much better than having no option or no reason at all like in XIII. That is my point.

I already said that there are some optional locations that are there for the sake of monster hunts. There are no proper optional dungeons akin to something like Taejin's Tower.

There is no reason for the l'Cie's to be tied down to just one Eidolon, it's just something established by the game so that they wouldn't have to make more Eidolon models. There could easily be more that could be there to "help out the l'Cie."
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#182theofficefan99Posted 2/13/2013 9:13:15 PM
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If you analyse the word something can't be 'over-rated' unless it is 'rated' more than it's worth. VII and X can't be over-rated simply for the fact that they were extremely successful (therefore justifying their ratings).

The game which perfectly fits that word is IX because it is so highly 'rated' (on the net at least) even though it was far less successful (or liked in the real world) than most other FFs.

Also i totally agree with you TC XIII is totally under-rated. I think it was a return to form after the poor XII and online only XI.


Sales don't mean anything. Fable was financially successful too, but a TON of people hated it. Sales don't justify anything.

So you hate FF4-6, 9, 12

And you love FF7, 8, 10, and 13?

LOL you have a TERRIBLE taste of games.


The hell is wrong with loving VII and X? Those are some of the most loved games in the series, and VIII and XIII, while very divisive, were still critically acclaimed games and have a reasonable amount of fans. They are by no means bad games.

And personally, the only FF game I pretty much dislike is Final Fantasy XII.

And the only objectively bad mainline title is Final Fantasy XIV.
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#183DemonPathRevyaPosted 2/13/2013 9:18:28 PM
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I hope this doesn't reach 500 posts. >_>
In my opinion FInal Fantasy X is the most overrated game in the series. Final Fantasy VII is pretty overrated in itself, but I blame Nomura for most of that. Honestly the word over and underrated are probably being abused a lot in this topic.

Also to the guy who says Final Fantasy X and XIII are similar, I agree with a little. Both stories (in my opinion) are more convoluted then they need to be, exploration are through tubes, dialogue is laughable, chock full of melodrama and tons of flashy symbols during transition time. But otherwise they are different enough....


100% agreed. 10 a bit more overrated though.


Glad you agree. Not to hate on it, I just for the life of me, can't force myself to like it no matter how hard I try. I've played it like 3 times in the last 2.5 years, doing all the side quests, unlocking all of their ultimate weapons, seeing all of the extra cut scenes and fighting all of the post game bosses! I still don't like this game!? Why can't I like it??? Truth be told, I really do want to like it..... but it's far so irrational for my tastes. >_>
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#184TehAssasinPosted 2/13/2013 10:30:29 PM
FFXIII is overrated by people who defended the game.
#185Lindaru111Posted 2/14/2013 1:11:36 AM
I think FFII, IX, V and III are the underrated ones in the series. :<
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#186TeamWuPosted 2/14/2013 3:58:49 AM
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From: TeamWu | #179
And you love FF13?

LOL you have a TERRIBLE taste of games.

How is XIII terrible?


Terribly whiny and annoying cast, over-the-top linear gameplay, story so convoluted that you had to access the data log in order to get a simple understanding of key terms and idea.

The game is pretty bad. It's surprising that there's still people that defend it with their life.
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#187KittenSndwchmkrPosted 2/14/2013 4:00:31 AM
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From: TeamWu | #179
And you love FF13?

LOL you have a TERRIBLE taste of games.

How is XIII terrible?


Terribly whiny and annoying cast, over-the-top linear gameplay, story so convoluted that you had to access the data log in order to get a simple understanding of key terms and idea.

The game is pretty bad. It's surprising that there's still people that defend it with their life.


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#188KittenSndwchmkrPosted 2/14/2013 4:05:16 AM
Lindaru111 posted...
I think FFII, IX, V and III are the underrated ones in the series. :<


IX? Underrated?

How. I thought everyone is in love with FFIX, save for Romangelo, but as we all know:

http://i.imgur.com/T2pVq.jpg
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#189Lindaru111Posted 2/14/2013 4:11:32 AM
KittenSndwchmkr posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
I think FFII, IX, V and III are the underrated ones in the series. :<


IX? Underrated?

How. I thought everyone is in love with FFIX, save for Romangelo, but as we all know:

http://i.imgur.com/T2pVq.jpg


Well it WAS underrated before Dissidia/012.

I happen to love FFIX, since it was the first game in the series that I played.
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#190KittenSndwchmkrPosted 2/14/2013 4:13:15 AM
Lindaru111 posted...
KittenSndwchmkr posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
I think FFII, IX, V and III are the underrated ones in the series. :<


IX? Underrated?

How. I thought everyone is in love with FFIX, save for Romangelo, but as we all know:

http://i.imgur.com/T2pVq.jpg


Well it WAS underrated before Dissidia/012.

I happen to love FFIX, since it was the first game in the series that I played.


I still don't know how it was underrated. Everyone who talked about it said it was a great game before Romangelo spawned.
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