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Honey-Boy
Posted 3/22/2013 2:38:28 AM
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.
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Lindaru111
Posted 3/22/2013 2:40:53 AM

(edited)
Honey-Boy posted...
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.


And make it like Anarchy Reings where you have to beat the game 2 - 4 times back to back to get everything in the game, see every cutscene and fight every battle in the game 2 - 4 times?
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Honey-Boy
(Topic Creator)
Posted 3/22/2013 2:44:03 AM
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.


And make it like Anarchy Reings where you have to beat the game 2 - 4 times back to back to get everything in the game, see every cutscene and fight every battle in the game 2 - 4 times?


SE would be so lucky if this game turns out even a quarter as good as Anarchy Reigns.
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Lindaru111
Posted 3/22/2013 2:46:52 AM

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Honey-Boy posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.


And make it like Anarchy Reings where you have to beat the game 2 - 4 times back to back to get everything in the game, see every cutscene and fight every battle in the game 2 - 4 times?


SE would be so lucky if this game turns out even a quarter as good as Anarchy Reigns.


I liked Anarchy Reings, but I hated the fact that you had to play story 2 times back to back "making it 4 times" to unlock everything in the game.
Otherwise it was fun game nonetheless.
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Honey-Boy
(Topic Creator)
Posted 3/22/2013 2:51:03 AM
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.


And make it like Anarchy Reings where you have to beat the game 2 - 4 times back to back to get everything in the game, see every cutscene and fight every battle in the game 2 - 4 times?


SE would be so lucky if this game turns out even a quarter as good as Anarchy Reigns.


I liked Anarchy Reings, but I hated the fact that you had to play story 2 times back to back "making it 4 times" to unlock everything in the game.
Otherwise it was fun game nonetheless.


i wont argue that, but the whole game's purpose was to be mostly for online play with friends. hence the 30 dollar price tag (which you really cant beat for a game of this quality)

more to the point...

PG's Bayonetta, Metalgear Rising and Vanquish shows they can do these huge scale action games that run at 60 frames per second with lush visuals and intense action.

these are qualities that SE has strived for... IN THEIR CUTSCENES.

PG is the only studio i can think of that can make a game that can play exactly like the cutscene crap that SE does all the time and never lets the player pull it off.
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Lindaru111
Posted 3/22/2013 2:53:24 AM
Honey-Boy posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
Lindaru111 posted...
Honey-Boy posted...
is if platinum games makes it.

SE has proven time and time again that they are incompetent as making action games... so terrible they had to buy Eidos to make their action games from here on out. (DX:HR and Tomb Raider are amazing)

so they wana make FF13-3 an action game now? please SE... you clowns dont understand basic game design, i doubt you can understand the subtleties of a hack n slash. it is a delicate art to make them good... something that platinum games is a samurai master at.

they get action and have a proven track record. SE is arrogant to make this game without PG's cooperation.


And make it like Anarchy Reings where you have to beat the game 2 - 4 times back to back to get everything in the game, see every cutscene and fight every battle in the game 2 - 4 times?


SE would be so lucky if this game turns out even a quarter as good as Anarchy Reigns.


I liked Anarchy Reings, but I hated the fact that you had to play story 2 times back to back "making it 4 times" to unlock everything in the game.
Otherwise it was fun game nonetheless.


i wont argue that, but the whole game's purpose was to be mostly for online play with friends. hence the 30 dollar price tag (which you really cant beat for a game of this quality)

more to the point...

PG's Bayonetta, Metalgear Rising and Vanquish shows they can do these huge scale action games that run at 60 frames per second with lush visuals and intense action.

these are qualities that SE has strived for... IN THEIR CUTSCENES.

PG is the only studio i can think of that can make a game that can play exactly like the cutscene crap that SE does all the time and never lets the player pull it off.


I haven't played MGR yet since my ps3 ylod'd for the 2nd time now, but I've heard it's really good.
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LuBu1975
Posted 3/22/2013 2:56:36 AM
Kingdom Hearts is a good Action rpg so that theory is out the window. Also Crystal Dynamics made Tomb Raider not Eidos. And btw they bought Eidos years ago.

Also what's so good about Platinum games? They made one decent game (Bayonetta) which was essentially a DMC rip-off with a big-ass woman. I haven't seen anything else that was great. Also MGR is a bit rubbish (i've got it).

I think SE have a much better record and it's most likely Platinum Games who were wishing SE made games for them.
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kupo1705
Posted 3/22/2013 3:02:17 AM
The only way it can be saved is if it isn't made.
Honey-Boy
(Topic Creator)
Posted 3/22/2013 3:05:52 AM
LuBu1975 posted...
Kingdom Hearts is a good Action rpg so that theory is out the window. Also Crystal Dynamics made Tomb Raider not Eidos. And btw they bought Eidos years ago.

Also what's so good about Platinum games? They made one decent game (Bayonetta) which was essentially a DMC rip-off with a big-ass woman. I haven't seen anything else that was great. Also MGR is a bit rubbish (i've got it).

I think SE have a much better record and it's most likely Platinum Games who were wishing SE made games for them.


first of all, let me educate you-

Bayonetta was designed by Hideki Kamiya... this guy is the creator of the original Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe and Okami and directed Reisdent Evil 2. he has one of the most impressive portfolios in the game industry and has made some of the most well regarded action games of all time.

before platinum games was platinum games, they were known as clover, and produced godhand... the greatest ps2 action game of all time. the crew was also responsible for making the resident evil remake on the game cube (as well as the original game on ps1) and they made resident evil 4, which is regarded as the game that saved resident evil from obscurity.

they also made Vanquish... the most incredible 3rd person shooter ever made.

i dont think SE has a decent track record lately that can compare. maybe their western division from edios... but NOT SE of japan. as far as im concerned, SE hasnt made a legitimate good game since the ps1 days... specifically since they merged to become SE.

oh, and kingdom hearts is a very mediocre action game. it is as mindless as dynasty warriors and lacks a decent challenge compounded with the most lazy level designs i have ever seen in an action game or rpg for that matter. (hallways, corridors and large empty rooms mostly.)
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Honey-Boy
(Topic Creator)
Posted 3/22/2013 3:06:58 AM
and if you think MGR is rubbish, then you are hopeless.

MGR is many things, but rubbish is definitely not one of them.
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