Week 5 Sales...

#71FireMage7777Posted 12/27/2013 10:24:33 AM
Jukain posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Jukain posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Except it isn't. In order to be a mainline title it must have a roman numeral after the words Final Fantasy, and nothing before the Final or after the numeral. The only exception is FFI. To say otherwise is simply put, ignorance


By this rule, Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn isn't a mainline FF game. I'm pretty sure anyone would tell you that you're wrong here.


XIV is still XIV, the titling "Realm Reborn" is equivalent to an expansion, like the XI expansions. Nice try though


Except A Realm Reborn is a reboot, not an expansion. And you could say that X-2, XIII-2, and Lightning Returns are expansions.


Except it isn't a reboot. Please educate yourself as to what a reboot is
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#72lindaluvPosted 12/27/2013 11:09:54 AM
FireMage7777 posted...
Aqua_Light_13 posted...
King_Shortt_IX posted...
Yes. Anything that continues the story or a main FF title is a mainline title.

And LR sold poorly by any standard for Final Fantasy.


You guys are arguing about something that doesn't even matter.

No one cares if it's mainline or not. No one cared FF Versus wasn't mainline before, if they wanted it then they wanted it.

FF sales is determined by its production value. The moment production value drops, sales will drop. If production value dipped to a new low, then sales would dip to a new low.

Talking about FF standards for a game that doesn't even follow FF standards is laughable.
This game rightfully got the sales it deserves because people saw what it actually is. Not a Final Fantasy, but a low budget, rushed and very experimental game to close off the XIII saga.

This experimental game actually turns out to be very fun, but people don't care much about that because it doesn't look jawdroppingly awesome and doesn't have that big budget feel to it like the typical new FF.


Or, and just hear me out. People actually recognized how bad XIII-2 was and decided to call it quits


Quoted for truth.. and because it is the overwhelming majority fact... er opinion.

Also... I thought FF 14 ARR was meant to be a reboot.. in the sense that they did everything from ground up to fix the original idea???
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#73SuperXThousandPosted 12/27/2013 11:23:36 AM
Iightningz posted...
Are you sure the sales are not affected by incoming releases of new consoles, and the shift of gaming towards mobile?


Yes. If people loved the series sales wouldn't have basically halved. Twice.

Hopefully LR wasn't too expensive. And hopefully XV can bring back the fans :/
#74IightningzPosted 12/27/2013 11:27:27 AM(edited)
SuperXThousand posted...
Iightningz posted...
Are you sure the sales are not affected by incoming releases of new consoles, and the shift of gaming towards mobile?


Yes. If people loved the series sales wouldn't have basically halved. Twice.

Hopefully LR wasn't too expensive. And hopefully XV can bring back the fans :/


I didn't say it was the only factor that led to a 50% reduction in sales.. it could have affected it by 15% or something, whilst the other losses were contributed by other factors.
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#75SuperXThousandPosted 12/27/2013 11:27:49 AM
FireMage7777 posted...
Except it isn't a reboot. Please educate yourself as to what a reboot is


You sure it's not a reboot? They literally made a decision to rebuild the game from the ground up (more or less). It's not a reboot in the same way that Tomb Raider was a reboot, but it's still a reboot. I think :/

Either way semantics, who cares?
#76SuperXThousandPosted 12/27/2013 11:29:59 AM
Iightningz posted...
SuperXThousand posted...
Iightningz posted...
Are you sure the sales are not affected by incoming releases of new consoles, and the shift of gaming towards mobile?


Yes. If people loved the series sales wouldn't have basically halved. Twice.

Hopefully LR wasn't too expensive. And hopefully XV can bring back the fans :/


I didn't say it was the only factor that led to a 50% reduction in sales.. it could have affected it by 15% or something, whilst the other losses were contributed by other factors.


It would be extremely disturbing to me for mobile gaming to injure the sales of 'real' games. I certainly hope that isn't what's happening here lol.
#77IightningzPosted 12/27/2013 11:30:15 AM
SuperXThousand posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Except it isn't a reboot. Please educate yourself as to what a reboot is


You sure it's not a reboot? They literally made a decision to rebuild the game from the ground up (more or less). It's not a reboot in the same way that Tomb Raider was a reboot, but it's still a reboot. I think :/

Either way semantics, who cares?


It is a reboot, lol. The only continuity it contained was the story. Basically world in original XIV went boom because Bahamut, then the realm was reborn. The old game became completely obsolete, the new XIV replaced the old one. If you bought the old one, you'd be automatically asked to download the new one.
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#78FireMage7777Posted 12/27/2013 3:12:07 PM
SuperXThousand posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Except it isn't a reboot. Please educate yourself as to what a reboot is


You sure it's not a reboot? They literally made a decision to rebuild the game from the ground up (more or less). It's not a reboot in the same way that Tomb Raider was a reboot, but it's still a reboot. I think :/

Either way semantics, who cares?


100% certain
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#79FireMage7777Posted 12/27/2013 3:14:35 PM
Iightningz posted...
SuperXThousand posted...
FireMage7777 posted...
Except it isn't a reboot. Please educate yourself as to what a reboot is


You sure it's not a reboot? They literally made a decision to rebuild the game from the ground up (more or less). It's not a reboot in the same way that Tomb Raider was a reboot, but it's still a reboot. I think :/

Either way semantics, who cares?


It is a reboot, lol. The only continuity it contained was the story. Basically world in original XIV went boom because Bahamut, then the realm was reborn. The old game became completely obsolete, the new XIV replaced the old one. If you bought the old one, you'd be automatically asked to download the new one.


Yes, because Cataclysm is a WOW reboot :D BTW that's the only continuity it needs to continue, story
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#80LordKaizerPosted 12/27/2013 9:08:21 PM
Aqua_Light_13 posted...
King_Shortt_IX posted...
Being low budget does not exempt LR from being judged the same way as other games are and therefore it sold poorly in comparison. Nothing laughable about holding games to the same standard and is laughable to see such a desperate ploy as dimissing poor sales because it is low budget and therefore should exempt for no good reason.

It still met SE's goal.


I've never seen someone as delusional as you here, and on gamefaqs, that's saying a lot. Some people I might disagree with, but you...you're beyond help. No one is desperate here except you.

People are tired of the same thing over and over again, everybody knows that. But there are other main factors at work here that showed why it's foolish to hold this game to the same standards of a new big budget FF. But then, I don't expect someone like you who has been posting nonsense, twisting truth, staying on a board hating on a game for god-knows-how-long and acted all innocent to admit that.


look at shatterstar's posts before saying these words.
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