extinctions and ultimate lair

#1Kuebel33Posted 5/1/2014 5:15:38 AM
For Ultimate lair, I guess the idea is to extinct the "big" enemies at the very least before going in? What constitutes as the "big" enemies (i.e. are there any enemies that aren't "big, but time consuming as well?)

Is there enough time to go to every single floor to get whatever other drops I'm missing, or does this indeed require extincting most enemies ahead of time?

Anything else to know ahead of time? I'm on day 9 or 10 and have probably 10+ mobs extinct, but mostly little dudes. Chocobo Eater and the beast that drops flesheater are the only "big" mobs I've made extinct.
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#2TrueTrinityPosted 5/1/2014 5:28:42 AM
"Big" monsters are considered ones that give 2EP on normal mode upon defeat.
#3Kuebel33(Topic Creator)Posted 5/1/2014 5:40:59 AM
If you wipe an area out will other monsters spawn or does it just become empty?
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#4phobzyPosted 5/1/2014 5:44:46 AM
It's just empty, and you carry on to the next floor via Cactair teleporter :)
#5Kuebel33(Topic Creator)Posted 5/1/2014 7:02:19 AM
Sorry, I meant like out in the world, like if you kill all the mobs in one area is that area just dead from there on out?
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#6zurcnPosted 5/1/2014 8:04:12 AM
Kuebel33 posted...
Sorry, I meant like out in the world, like if you kill all the mobs in one area is that area just dead from there on out?
this is "mostly" correct. however there are some monsters you can never extinguish. dead dunes is a good example of a area that becomes completely empty if you kill off all monsters

there is enough time to kill off all floors (largely dependant on individual skill) but as there is the risk you won't be able to, I wouldn't recommend it

look for a floor guide, any monster you eliminate beforehand will give you a empty floor where you can choose to move 1-2-3 floors ahead

you should at least kill meonekoton (since it's either impossible or inane to do outside)
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#7nurnbergPosted 5/1/2014 6:30:19 PM(edited)
I started the ultimate dungeon as soon as day 13 started. I had about 3 mobs that I didn't exterminate yet. I finished the dungeon at 14:00. I visited every floor. The last boss can take a while to beat. This was my first time, so I wasn't particularly quick.