tali and shotgun..

#1calvin_0Posted 1/14/2013 11:36:17 PM
i notice recently that when ever i use tali, she always pull out a shotgun, even when i ask her to use pistol, she will eventually goes back to shotgun.

i guess tali really love shotgun.
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#2Miku_369Posted 1/15/2013 3:32:01 PM
Its actually ironic when you think about it.
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#3Wing_PhoenixPosted 1/24/2013 1:16:12 PM
How is it ironic?
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#4Miku_369Posted 1/25/2013 9:06:54 AM
Wing_Phoenix posted...
How is it ironic?


There's a conversation about it between Tali and Garrus.

The irony is that Tali, who is always one suit puncture away from death, prefers shotguns which requires her to be up close to her target over a more suitable ranged weapon like an assault rifle or sniper rifle.
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#5Wing_PhoenixPosted 1/26/2013 9:45:53 PM
Ahh, Yeah that is odd. I wonder why they chose Shotgun as her extra weapon. (If memory serves Engineers only get pistol skill by default in ME1 and I never played as an Engineer in ME2 or ME3 so I don't know what weapons they can use in 2.) Assault Rifle would make the most sense given her suit dependency though. I'm betting Sniper takes more specialized training then other weapons and wouldn't be particularly useful on most ships.Maybe she picked Shotgun to train with thinking it would be more useful then an Assault Rifle when fighting in close quarters on a ship?"
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#6shweppyPosted 1/30/2013 8:22:25 AM
Human engineers only get pistol by default, but in ME1, Tali's Quarian training allows her to get shotgun. Her training also gets her ridiculous shield bonuses, as does maxing her electronics skill, so she was a VERY durable front-line fighter.

Unfortunately, those shield bonuses didn't carry forward into the ME2/3 combat engine, so it doesn't make as much sense for her to be a front-line fighter.
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#7Miku_369Posted 1/31/2013 8:55:08 PM
learn to separate story and gameplay

Even Reeger said that putting soldiers on the front lines is an absolute last resort regardless of how advance their shields are.
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#8shweppyPosted 2/4/2013 8:15:24 PM
The point I was trying to make is, I thought the skill-set in ME1 DID support her use of the shotgun within the framework of the story. I thought of her as a specialist who would control the field of battle, then take the quick strike opportunities when they came up.

Between Sabotage, AI Hack, Neural Shock and Dampening, she had more than enough crowd control to make sure she didn't get hit all that often.

With Overload and the shotgun, she'd make sure that any battles she had to fight would be short and sweet.

When things got hairy she had more than enough shields to make sure she could get to cover before anything penetrated.

To me, the shotgun fit her perfectly because if she was stuck in short-range combat, she could pop out of cover, do massive damage in a few hits, then run back to cover while her crowd control skills cooled down. An AR would not have been as effective because it requires more time out of cover to do the same amount of damage.

The sniper rifle may have been appropriate as well, but if she was in close range combat, she wouldn't be able to flit from cover to cover as easily, and would have to be exposed for longer periods of time to get to sniper range.

Unfortunately, when they made the port to the simplified skill systems of 2&3, a lot of the synergies between her skill set and her weapon choice were lost. Her crowd control dropped to almost nothing and she lost the extra shields. I agree, with those changes, the shotgun seems very out of place.
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#9shweppyPosted 2/6/2013 10:04:27 AM
As far as I know, the Asari are the only unisex species in the universe, though I'm not sure how you would even verify that with the Hanar.
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#10shweppyPosted 2/6/2013 10:12:23 AM
shweppy posted...
As far as I know, the Asari are the only unisex species in the universe, though I'm not sure how you would even verify that with the Hanar.


Sorry for the triple-post... that last one was meant for another thread!!!!! :-/
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