DW8 character tier list.

#71Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 12:41:47 PM
I have never uploaded such a large video. Is it supposed to take this long?
#72Patty_FleurPosted 9/14/2013 1:44:42 PM
What's the youtube link?
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#73SlidedemonPosted 9/14/2013 2:15:31 PM
Apothecary2 posted...
Tier 1:(fastest offense, Completely unstoppable)
Sun Shangxiang(horse charge)
Deng Ai(horse charge)
Ding Feng(horse charge)
Huang Zhong(horse charge)

Tier 2:(extremely fast offense, unstoppable)
+Zhang Liao(switch attack)
+Sima Shi(C3)
Xiahou Yuan(C2,C6)
Zhang Fei(c2, c6)
Lu Xun(c3)
Ling Tong(charged switch attack)
- Zhou Tai(c3->charged switch attack)

Tier 3:(extreme offense, defensive flaws/unstoppable,fast offense)
+Gan Ning(c3->shadow sprint)
+Xiahou Dun(c2)
+Taishi Ci(c2,c5-EX)
+Sun Jian (c2,c6)
Liu Bei(c2,c4)
Wang Yuanji(c4,c6)
Sima Zhao(c6)
Zhurong(c6)
Yuan Shao(c6)
Guan Yinping(rotating c6,c4-EX->c6)
-Zhou Yu (c4)
-Lianshi (switch attack->c4)

Tier 4:(fast offense)
Sun Ce(c4,musou)
Ma Chao(c3-EX)
Guan Ping (charged c1,c6)
Wei Yan(c5)
Cao Pi(c6)
Yueying(storm rush,r1 musou,rage musou)
Diao Chan(storm rush, r1 musou,rage musou)
Xu Shu(storm rush, r1 musou, rage musou)
Zhang He(s6,c2->jump charge)

Tier 5:(inconsistent offense/average offense)
Lu Bu(air musou,r1 musou, switch attack->button mash)
Guan yu(c1-EX->r1 musou,c1-EX-> c6)
Huang Gai(c5-EX,c6)
Dian Wei(c1-EX->c4)
Xu Zhu (c3,c5,c6)
Sun Quan(c3)

Tier 6:(slow inconsistent offense, defensive flaws)
Lu Meng(c3,c4,c6)
Zhuge Liang(c6)

bottom tier,probably tier 8(slowest offense, severe defensive flaws)
Cao Cao(storm rush,musou,rage musou)
Sima Yi(s6)


Hmm after looking at this Tier List so far, I can point out some flaws. Mainly because a Tier List should be an overall analysis of each character into great detail, not just listing a charge or two and saying that they're placed in their respective tiers. An example would be Sima Yi, you can easily says his offense is quite possibly the slowest but, I find that he has very little defensive flaws. His C3 protects him from many infantry or officers that you don't have a disadvantage against.

In my personal opinion, there are plenty of misplaced characters. Wang Yuanji for example since you can easily up your killing speed by activating her Awakening but instead, do not use her musou. Just continue to use her C4 as you will have increased attack speed and movement speed to get through the stage quicker. In doing so, she will be a way faster killer than Xiahou Dun and Gan Ning easily.

All I'm saying is that the advice I can give you is to place each character under a Tier such as S being the highest and any other letter being the lowest based on the amount of differences among the different tiers. The ranks can be determined by an overall analysis. Some examples to be examined is: infantry and officer kill speed, stage clear speed, safeness and builds. By builds, I mean what do you have as their 4 set-up Skills and what is on each of their weapons.

To finish off, I am glad that there is someone finally making a Tier List who also seems to be interested to keep it going until they're finished. So thank you Apothecary2 for making a Tier List as I was thinking of making my own but I had a feeling that I wouldn't continue to complete it.

I'll be looking at your Tier List off and on, possibly provided some of my own thoughts if you don't mind. :)
#74Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 2:19:01 PM
Tier 1 (fastest offense, Completely unstoppable)
Sun Shangxiang (horse charge)
Ding Feng (horse charge)
Deng AI (horse charge)
Huang Zhong (horse charge)
Cai Wenji (horse charge)

Tier 2 (Extreme offense, unstoppable)
+Sima Shi (C3)
+Zhang Liao (switch attack)
+Pang Tong (horse charge)
Ling Tong (charged switch attack)
Pang De (c1, c4)
Zhang Fei (c2,c6)
Xiahou Yuan (c2,c6)
Guo Jia (jump charge, extra orbs->c4)
Lu Xun (c3)
Bao Sanniang (c3)
Zhou Tai (c3->charged switch attack)
Xiahou Ba (c1->c4)
-Gan Ning (c3->shadow sprint)
-Zhong Hui (c3,S6)



Tier 3
(fast offense, unstoppable)
+Xiahou Dun (c2)
+Sun Jian (c2,c6)
+Taishi Ci (c2,c5-EX)
Zhou Yu (c4)
Xiao Qiao (c4,c5)
Da Qiao (c4)
Liu Bei (c2,c4)
Jiang wei (c4,c5)
Xingcai (c3,c4)


(extreme offense, defensive flaws)
+Wang Yuanji(c4,c6)
Siam Zhao (c6)
Lian Shi (switch attack->c4)
Zhurong (c6)
-Guan Yinping (rotating c6,c4-EX->c6)

Tier 4
(fast offense)
Zhang He (c2->jump charge,S6)
Wang Yi (c6)
Sun Ce (c4)
Ma chao (c3-EX)
Guan Ping(c1,c6)
Zhang Jiao (c1,c6)
Meng Huo (c6)
Yueying (storm rush,r1 musou,rage musou)
-Diaochan (storm rush,r1 musou, rage musou)

(Inconsistent extreme offense)
Han Dang (c4,c5)
Wei Yan (c5)
Yuan Shao (c6)
Ma Dai (c5)

Tier 5
(average offense)
Dian Wei (c1-EX->c4)
Xu Zhu (c3,c5,c6)
Cao Ren (c4-EX,rage musou)
Yue Jin (S6)
Huang Gai (c5-EX,c6)
Guan Yu (c1-EX->c6,c1-EX->r1 musou)
Xu Shu(r1 musou,storm rush,rage musou
Lu Bu (r1 musou, air musou, switch attack->button mash)
Zuo Ci(c2-EX->c6,c2-EX->r1musou,c2-EX->storm rush)

(inconsistent fast offense)
Xu Huang (c3-EX, C6)
Sun Quan (c3)
Cao Pi (c6)
Jia Xu (c2)
Guan suo(c4,c5,c6)
Guan Xing (c4,c5,c6)



Tier 6
(inconsistent offense)
Zhenji (c6)
Lu Meng (c3,c4,c6)
Zhang Bao (c6)
Guo Huai (c4)
Jia Chong (c1->full c3)

(Defensive flaws,Inconsistent fast offense)
Zhao Yun (c6)
Dong Zhuo (c4)

(slow offense)
Lu Su (c4)
Liu shan (c4)
Wen Yang (c4)

Tier 7 (inconsistent slow offense, defensive flaws)
Li Dian(c3)
Zhuge Liang (c6)
Zhuge Dan (c6)
Zhang Chunhua (c4)

Tier 8 (slowest offense, severe defensive flaws)
+Cao Cao (storm rush, Musou, Rage musou)
Sima Yi (S6)

Zhao Yun and Zuo Ci might be subject to a placement change in the future if a better setup for them can be found.
#75Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 2:20:37 PM
Patty_Fleur posted...
What's the youtube link?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feem-GVM_Rk
#76Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 2:25:55 PM
Slidedemon posted...
Apothecary2 posted...
Tier 1:(fastest offense, Completely unstoppable)
Sun Shangxiang(horse charge)
Deng Ai(horse charge)
Ding Feng(horse charge)
Huang Zhong(horse charge)

Tier 2:(extremely fast offense, unstoppable)
+Zhang Liao(switch attack)
+Sima Shi(C3)
Xiahou Yuan(C2,C6)
Zhang Fei(c2, c6)
Lu Xun(c3)
Ling Tong(charged switch attack)
- Zhou Tai(c3->charged switch attack)

Tier 3:(extreme offense, defensive flaws/unstoppable,fast offense)
+Gan Ning(c3->shadow sprint)
+Xiahou Dun(c2)
+Taishi Ci(c2,c5-EX)
+Sun Jian (c2,c6)
Liu Bei(c2,c4)
Wang Yuanji(c4,c6)
Sima Zhao(c6)
Zhurong(c6)
Yuan Shao(c6)
Guan Yinping(rotating c6,c4-EX->c6)
-Zhou Yu (c4)
-Lianshi (switch attack->c4)

Tier 4:(fast offense)
Sun Ce(c4,musou)
Ma Chao(c3-EX)
Guan Ping (charged c1,c6)
Wei Yan(c5)
Cao Pi(c6)
Yueying(storm rush,r1 musou,rage musou)
Diao Chan(storm rush, r1 musou,rage musou)
Xu Shu(storm rush, r1 musou, rage musou)
Zhang He(s6,c2->jump charge)

Tier 5:(inconsistent offense/average offense)
Lu Bu(air musou,r1 musou, switch attack->button mash)
Guan yu(c1-EX->r1 musou,c1-EX-> c6)
Huang Gai(c5-EX,c6)
Dian Wei(c1-EX->c4)
Xu Zhu (c3,c5,c6)
Sun Quan(c3)

Tier 6:(slow inconsistent offense, defensive flaws)
Lu Meng(c3,c4,c6)
Zhuge Liang(c6)

bottom tier,probably tier 8(slowest offense, severe defensive flaws)
Cao Cao(storm rush,musou,rage musou)
Sima Yi(s6)


Hmm after looking at this Tier List so far, I can point out some flaws. Mainly because a Tier List should be an overall analysis of each character into great detail, not just listing a charge or two and saying that they're placed in their respective tiers. An example would be Sima Yi, you can easily says his offense is quite possibly the slowest but, I find that he has very little defensive flaws. His C3 protects him from many infantry or officers that you don't have a disadvantage against.

In my personal opinion, there are plenty of misplaced characters. Wang Yuanji for example since you can easily up your killing speed by activating her Awakening but instead, do not use her musou. Just continue to use her C4 as you will have increased attack speed and movement speed to get through the stage quicker. In doing so, she will be a way faster killer than Xiahou Dun and Gan Ning easily.

All I'm saying is that the advice I can give you is to place each character under a Tier such as S being the highest and any other letter being the lowest based on the amount of differences among the different tiers. The ranks can be determined by an overall analysis. Some examples to be examined is: infantry and officer kill speed, stage clear speed, safeness and builds. By builds, I mean what do you have as their 4 set-up Skills and what is on each of their weapons.

To finish off, I am glad that there is someone finally making a Tier List who also seems to be interested to keep it going until they're finished. So thank you Apothecary2 for making a Tier List as I was thinking of making my own but I had a feeling that I wouldn't continue to complete it.

I'll be looking at your Tier List off and on, possibly provided some of my own thoughts if you don't mind. :)


Again analysis is coming after I have done every character and I have done every character now.Sima Yi has defensive flaws while using his S6 which is his only decent offense. Wang Yuanji has one of the fastest offenses in the game but she requires constant repositioning like Lianshi. That is the defensive flaw. Gan Ning kills just as fast and has fewer defensive flaws.
#77Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 2:56:56 PM
Any more video requests?
#78RydainPosted 9/14/2013 3:03:29 PM
Good job so far. I'm looking forward to following more of this discussion.

I'd like to see any of the top tier characters as a benchmark of performance, as well as my main man Cao Ren.
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#79Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 4:16:59 PM
Rydain posted...
Good job so far. I'm looking forward to following more of this discussion.

I'd like to see any of the top tier characters as a benchmark of performance, as well as my main man Cao Ren.


I will be uploading Sun Shangxiang and Zhang Liao. I have a Cao Ren video but it isn't very good. It highlights his flaws as his c4 can be inconsistent because the elements don't activate exactly where his weapons slashes are. I have yet to test a setup with roar-flurry-aggression on him. it could possibly be better but in order for a character to take full advantage of a crazy rage musou, they must also have a crazy storm rush and standard musou. Cao Ren doesn't but he might be better with such a setup. I still have to test it. Or maybe you already know?
#80Apothecary2(Topic Creator)Posted 9/14/2013 5:33:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj2aE9llKws

Sun Shangxiang.