A peak at the new Xbox from a dev working on it:

#1CapnStankyPosted 4/16/2013 10:05:16 AM
Originally from an IGN forum:

So yes, I originally made a post on pastebin that I then posted on IGN that has now mysteriously vanished from the internet. I'm guessing good 'ol Don wasn't too happy.

In that pastebin post I said I wouldn't be saying anything else, but that was before a few things changed. So yeah.... #dealwithit.

That IGN post (that referenced the pastebin post) was also posted on NeoGAF. Though it didn't get much attention.

In that pastebin post I specifically mentioned that I was a GAF member, but that I would not be outing myself on GAF for fear of losing my job. And I still will not be doing that. I'm not an idiot.
However since the reveal is pretty close now, I thought I'd just come out and tell you everything I know. No more cryptic bullcrap, just facts.

First of all, for any of the GAF members reading this (or anyone else for that matter) that actually believed the online-required rumor, well.... you're either stupid, very gullible, or a fanboy. Reading the posts some of you made over the past few weeks leads me to believe that mostly fanboyism was involved. So, I'll make this very clear:

You are not required to be connected to the internet in order to play Durango games and MS were NEVER considering doing such a thing. Now please, just read that last sentence over and over again until it sinks in. Done? Good.


Now that I've got that out of the way I can talk about the real details.
First, I'll admit some things that I originally hinted at in the first pastebin are now not going to happen. Mainly the April 18th date (obviously) and the HMD glasses. The date, as you may know by now was pushed back to May, and the glasses, well, although theyíre kind of working are going to spend a bit longer in the oven.

Ok, moving on. Have you read the VGLeaks article about the Durango specs? Yes? Good because everything you read in that article was 100% correct. Except, for one tiny little detail that MS kept guarded from most devs until very recently. That detail being that every Durango ships with a Xbox 360 SOC.

There was a reason why MS hired so many former IBM and AMD employees. I'll admit I'm not an electrical engineer (I'm in software) so I won't pretend to know the ins and outs of how the 360 SOC integrates into the Durango motherboard. All I know, and all I need to know about this new change is that I (or a game dev) can use the 360 SOC in parallel with the original Durango hardware.

What does this mean in basic terms? Well, apart from Durango having 100% BC with the 360, it also increases Durango's processing power a fair amount.

Ok, so what else?

Kinect 2.0: - Again the specs from VGLeaks are correct, there's been no change and there won't be. However, the fact is, is that software can do ANYTHING, and with the quite substantial increase in the hardware over Kinect 1.0, any humanly noticeable lag should be gone

Controller: - The controller is pretty much the same. The D-Pad has been improved, but the change will only be noticeable when actually using it, i.e. it looks exactly the same, I haven't actually touched it, this is just what Iíve been told. AA batteries will make a return, but the new wireless tech MS has created for the controller, improves battery life by 16%. Again, this is just what the doc says.

Xbox Mini/Xbox TV: Yes, this is happening, although as far as I know, itís a whole different team over at MS that are handling this. As has been reported its main purpose is to compete with Apple TV, so expect this thing to be small and around $100.
It contains the 360 SOC (similar to the one in the Durango), however no disc drive is included (to decrease size). But of course you can still play any XBLA/Games on Demand game. Thatís all I really know about the xTV so Iíll leave it at that. Thurrott seems to know more than anyone else about this, so go ask him.
---
2013: Next Gen finally arrives. Don't let us down like Nintendo did.
#2CapnStanky(Topic Creator)Posted 4/16/2013 10:05:30 AM
OS/Services: I wish I knew more about this, but I honestly donít. I have no clue what sort of new ideas MS are going to bring to the table this gen, but Iím certainly expecting them to amaze.
The only thing that I do know for definite is that Durango will be running Windows 8. It will essentially be the full version of the OS, minus the desktop side of things. This means itíll be running the new WinRT framework, which as a side effect also means that contrary to popular belief MS will be the most indie friendly of all the big 3 next gen.
This is because any app/game that is created for the Windows app store will (after adding controller support of course) be playable on Durango.
In other words, any random person worldwide can pay Microsoft a $60 license fee (for the Windows Store) and submit their app/game to the store where millions of people can then download/buy it. No expensive development kits needed.
Expect to hear much more on WinRT - Durango at Build2013.

Ok, so thatís pretty much it. I wish I had more info on specific games and services that MS have lined up, but it seems that even Iíll have to wait until May to find out.
Iíll look forward to this post appearing on GAF, where rest assured Iíll be lurking. Hell, who knows I may even make a few posts.

I wonder how many people will refuse to believe this? HmmmmÖ.
---
2013: Next Gen finally arrives. Don't let us down like Nintendo did.
#3reincarnator07Posted 4/16/2013 10:27:57 AM
I'm lumping this in with the rest of the rumours. Until MS says something, I'll wait.
---
Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback
http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero
#4josh924Posted 4/16/2013 10:38:01 AM(edited)
CapnStanky posted...
First of all, for any of the GAF members reading this (or anyone else for that matter) that actually believed the online-required rumor, well.... you're either stupid, very gullible, or a fanboy. Reading the posts some of you made over the past few weeks leads me to believe that mostly fanboyism was involved. So, I'll make this very clear:

You are not required to be connected to the internet in order to play Durango games and MS were NEVER considering doing such a thing. Now please, just read that last sentence over and over again until it sinks in. Done? Good.


$100 says some idiot will come in here and be like "Nuh uh!" or call him a liar and/or an unreliable source, if only because of the part I quoted. In all likelihood, the "always online" thing is just an optional feature, much like the WiiConnect24 feature that the Wii had.

Edit: All in all, this sounds far more realistic than any of the previous rumors. When you look at it, there's no stupid BS (like always online) and no strange SKU configurations (like plugging an Xbox Mini into the Durango for BC). The only part that I think is dubious is the 100% BC thing, but we'll find out soon enough.
---
I like how the GameFAQs spellcheck shows that the word "Wii" is fine, but the words "Xbox" and "Kinect" show up as typos.
#5CapnStanky(Topic Creator)Posted 4/16/2013 10:32:59 AM
I dont believe this guy any more or less than the other rumors. He sounds like a fanboy, to be honest. But I do believe the rumor that the always-online device applies is the new 360 that will have the drive removed and function much like Apple TV.
---
2013: Next Gen finally arrives. Don't let us down like Nintendo did.
#6AstronomerJakePosted 4/16/2013 11:15:08 AM
This sounds like bull**** lol
#7Kovalchuk_Posted 4/16/2013 11:31:39 AM
Sounds good to me, this is much easier to believe than all of the other rumours.
---
Gamefaqs:
http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/too-true-g1.gif
#8ThE MaSTeR 3Posted 4/16/2013 11:53:01 AM
sounds underwhelming. Not just the next xbox but the entire next generation of consoles. How about we wait another 5yrs and maybe then MS and Sony will be ready to wow us.
#92NIKNIMPosted 4/16/2013 1:35:28 PM
Can't believe they have a 360SOC, either the guy really does not understand what a SOC is or MS have actually managed to put the 360s CPU, Memory AND Gfx on to one single silicon chip?

If they have this tech, then why bother releasing the mini to compete with an Apple side project and not go all out for a 360handheld?
---
Purveyor of pixelated pornography since 1984
http://cdn.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/aboss.gif
#10PensatoPosted 4/16/2013 2:44:36 PM(edited)
Whole things reads like a troll trying to get a rise out of people and not something posted from a legit source.

josh924 posted...
$100 says some idiot will come in here and be like "Nuh uh!" or call him a liar and/or an unreliable source, if only because of the part I quoted. In all likelihood, the "always online" thing is just an optional feature, much like the WiiConnect24 feature that the Wii had.


Even if it's an optional feature it still means MS was considering it, which the source says they were not. On top of that Adam Orth all but confirmed MS is, at the very least, considering always online in his twitter. So while not much else is confirmed we can safely assume the source is incorrect about his always online bit.

2NIKNIM posted...
Can't believe they have a 360SOC, either the guy really does not understand what a SOC is or MS have actually managed to put the 360s CPU, Memory AND Gfx on to one single silicon chip?


MS already has a SoC in the Xbox 360 slims.