A peak at the new Xbox from a dev working on it:

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2 years ago#11
If the part about the Indie games are true and Microsoft is modeling it after the mobile marketplaces, that will quickly become the best feature. BC is only widely popular for the first year when there arent many games and people are still attached to their old ones. A $1-2 marketplace for anyone to create games and get them published would be amazing. I am not a fan of Kinect but put in the hands of Indies and they could do some interesting stuff and its more like controlling a game on a mobile device. As long as Microsoft doesnt jack the prices up, I think a true Indie marketplace would be a huge selling factor of the new consoles.
2 years ago#12
The only thing that I do know for definite is that Durango will be running Windows 8. It will essentially be the full version of the OS, minus the desktop side of things. This means itíll be running the new WinRT framework, which as a side effect also means that contrary to popular belief MS will be the most indie friendly of all the big 3 next gen.
This is because any app/game that is created for the Windows app store will (after adding controller support of course) be playable on Durango.
In other words, any random person worldwide can pay Microsoft a $60 license fee (for the Windows Store) and submit their app/game to the store where millions of people can then download/buy it. No expensive development kits needed.

It can't be this simple, can it?
I get that Microsoft is getting a (deservedly) bad rep right now in how they've been handling Indie & XBLA developers, but this seems too much like an about face. It's like Microsoft saying "you thought we were too controlling? Well, give us the license fee and just have at it to your hearts desire."
There's got to for sure still be some regulation to what / when digital games are available to Durango. If just about anybody can make a game for the Windows Store, and have it available to every Neo XBOX, then wouldn't there be a glut of porn games suddenly showing up in a home video game console?
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2 years ago#13
patrick005 posted...
The only thing that I do know for definite is that Durango will be running Windows 8. It will essentially be the full version of the OS, minus the desktop side of things. This means itíll be running the new WinRT framework, which as a side effect also means that contrary to popular belief MS will be the most indie friendly of all the big 3 next gen.
This is because any app/game that is created for the Windows app store will (after adding controller support of course) be playable on Durango.
In other words, any random person worldwide can pay Microsoft a $60 license fee (for the Windows Store) and submit their app/game to the store where millions of people can then download/buy it. No expensive development kits needed.

It can't be this simple, can it?
I get that Microsoft is getting a (deservedly) bad rep right now in how they've been handling Indie & XBLA developers, but this seems too much like an about face. It's like Microsoft saying "you thought we were too controlling? Well, give us the license fee and just have at it to your hearts desire."
There's got to for sure still be some regulation to what / when digital games are available to Durango. If just about anybody can make a game for the Windows Store, and have it available to every Neo XBOX, then wouldn't there be a glut of porn games suddenly showing up in a home video game console?


Apps in the Windows 8 store have a pretty strict approval process, including

5.4 Your app must not contain or display content that a reasonable person would consider to be obscene or pornographic
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2 years ago#14
FayeLady posted...

Apps in the Windows 8 store have a pretty strict approval process, including

5.4 Your app must not contain or display content that a reasonable person would consider to be obscene or pornographic


Nextbox is doomed then. Porn games represents the 95% of videogames sales.
2 years ago#15
iOS has pretty much the exact same restrictions content wise.

I would bet Sony's filter process (whatever it may be) restricts games the same way.

If this comes to fruition it's probably a pretty set agreement that MS takes X% of all sales and just gives an up or down vote based on if there's anything pornographic or too vulgar and then releases it into the wild with whatever pricing the developer(s) decided. That's probably best case scenario.
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2 years ago#16
FayeLady posted...
patrick005 posted...
The only thing that I do know for definite is that Durango will be running Windows 8. It will essentially be the full version of the OS, minus the desktop side of things. This means itíll be running the new WinRT framework, which as a side effect also means that contrary to popular belief MS will be the most indie friendly of all the big 3 next gen.
This is because any app/game that is created for the Windows app store will (after adding controller support of course) be playable on Durango.
In other words, any random person worldwide can pay Microsoft a $60 license fee (for the Windows Store) and submit their app/game to the store where millions of people can then download/buy it. No expensive development kits needed.

It can't be this simple, can it?
I get that Microsoft is getting a (deservedly) bad rep right now in how they've been handling Indie & XBLA developers, but this seems too much like an about face. It's like Microsoft saying "you thought we were too controlling? Well, give us the license fee and just have at it to your hearts desire."
There's got to for sure still be some regulation to what / when digital games are available to Durango. If just about anybody can make a game for the Windows Store, and have it available to every Neo XBOX, then wouldn't there be a glut of porn games suddenly showing up in a home video game console?


Apps in the Windows 8 store have a pretty strict approval process, including

5.4 Your app must not contain or display content that a reasonable person would consider to be obscene or pornographic


Name an app store without those restrictions.
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2 years ago#17
RollnThunder213 posted...
iOS has pretty much the exact same restrictions content wise.

I would bet Sony's filter process (whatever it may be) restricts games the same way.

If this comes to fruition it's probably a pretty set agreement that MS takes X% of all sales and just gives an up or down vote based on if there's anything pornographic or too vulgar and then releases it into the wild with whatever pricing the developer(s) decided. That's probably best case scenario.



I would guess iOS and Sony are very similar to that, but I wouldn't call either one of them free or open with a straight face. Amazon and Google are a bit less restrictive, but even those are far from open.
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2 years ago#18
Hey Stanky, I'm an Xbox loyal since the beginning, and appreciate your info. The "always on" issue was big for me since I have a lousy and unreliable connection. But my primary decision as to which system I will support will come down to which allows the best options for playing used games. I buy some games new, and others used. I sell games when I'm done with them, to fund the purchase of other games.

Both new systems will offer increased performance and features, but I can't think of any features that would override the issue of being able to play used games. So with Sony confirming the ability to play used games on the PS4, I will be switching unless the same is true with the 360. Do you have any knowledge regarding this issue?
2 years ago#19
Seems like it could be legit.

Still waiting on Microsoft to say this stuff though. Till then, just another rumor.
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2 years ago#20
So does it have blu-ray?
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