Why does the Xbox One have mandatory game installs when the PS4 doesn't?

#31cpcjlc3Posted 8/30/2013 3:35:28 PM
BudWisenheimer posted...
AwayFromHere posted...
BudWisenheimer posted...


Where does that reveal installations are optional?


Today he confirmed that users will indeed be able to fully install disc-based games on the PS4%u2032s hard disk, but they’ll still have to keep the disc in the drive for verification.

...will indeed be able...

That usually indicates choice.


In this case it indicates a correction of a misstatement. The original statement was "no installs at all." Thus the correction is "will indeed be able." Gotta read the context.


How dare you ask them to read the article so they u derstand the context. How are they going to use it to support their failing argument if they can't take it out of context. Shame on you.

/end sarcasm
#32DarkTyrantXPosted 8/30/2013 3:38:25 PM
lol thread backfired on tc.
#33BudWisenheimerPosted 8/30/2013 3:40:34 PM
I'm still wondering about the fussing over proprietary HDDs. Why does MS need to sell proprietary HDDs for a product with no removable HDD?
#34RollnThunder213Posted 8/30/2013 3:41:59 PM
And TBH, both consoles having mandatory installs are going to be much better in the long run. Having everybody's game run off the hard drive will make the games run smoother and load faster. I mean for people not going digital what the hell would you have filled 500GB up with anyway? DLC and game saves? You're better off just using it for the better experience than let the empty space just sit there.
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#35DOWBLACKNINJAPosted 8/30/2013 3:42:43 PM
RollnThunder213 posted...
You obviously didn't read one of the articles I posted.

http://www.officialplaystationmagazine.co.uk/2013/04/24/ps4s-background-downloading-installing-explained-why-next-gen-wont-waste-any-of-you-time/

Straight from Mark Cerny's mouth...

Lead system architect Mark Cerny has explained more about PlayGo, the system which lets PS4 download games while you’re playing and means installing disks won’t get in the way.

PS4's background downloading & installing explained
The PlayGo system means you only have to download, “a portion of the overall data,” before you start playing. As you do, the rest downloads in the background. There’s also a second chip that functions with the PS4 in a low power mode to download things like system updates, patches and so on.

“We also have the ability to shut off everything except power to the RAMs, which is how we leave your game session suspended,” explains Cerny, referring to the PS4's ability to stop and start games without saving. In that state only the, “secondary custom chip, system memory, hard drive and Ethernet,” parts of the console are powered. Effectively your PS4 is shut down overall, only using the bits it needs to preserve you game’s progress or download data.

“After an hour or two, the game is on the hard drive, you have dramatically quicker loading and you have the ability to do some truly high-speed streaming” An interesting part of the PS4's PlayGo set up is how it will compensate for Blu-ray speeds and install times. Apparently games will copy data from the Blu-ray disk to the hard drive to get you started. It’ll then use any spare time the system has to copy over the remaining data. Cerny says, “What that means is after an hour or two, the game is on the hard drive, and you have access, you have dramatically quicker loading… And you have the ability to do some truly high-speed streaming.”


So now Mark Cerny isn't a reliable source?


And topic has now been blown up, bye TC.
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#36BudWisenheimerPosted 8/30/2013 3:47:24 PM
RollnThunder213 posted...
And TBH, both consoles having mandatory installs are going to be much better in the long run. Having everybody's game run off the hard drive will make the games run smoother and load faster. I mean for people not going digital what the hell would you have filled 500GB up with anyway? DLC and game saves? You're better off just using it for the better experience than let the empty space just sit there.


Right. There is valid talk of PS4 superiority. But these people who want to play ONLY from the disc would just be giving that up that superiority. Makes no sense.
#37SomboSteelPosted 8/30/2013 4:12:28 PM
DarkTyrantX posted...
lol thread backfired on tc.


Yep, good one LOLTROLL
#38SolisPosted 8/30/2013 4:27:31 PM
Mandating an install has a lot of benefits for developers that don't have to spend time and effort getting games running from an inferior media that provides no benefit otherwise in read speed, not to mention you'd want consumers to have the best experience possible and loading from a disc is counteractive towards that. It's funny, so many people I know don't bother installing games on their Xbox 360 even with 250GB harddrives, in games that they'll literally spend hundreds of hours on that a simple 10 minute install could reduce the loading times of by, well, hours even.
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#39Top_BlokePosted 8/30/2013 5:02:52 PM
Hahaha LOLKNICKS guess you won't be bumping this topic to continue your trolling.
#40embrandedonePosted 8/30/2013 5:08:39 PM
Top_Bloke posted...
Hahaha LOLKNICKS guess you won't be bumping this topic to continue your trolling.

Yet you continued to bump his topic ^_^

Still, I'm confused. So many sites confirmed that the installs are indeed optional and yet the Xbots are running around doing the chicken dance. I guess the constant abuse made them loop back to being happy for Sony.

Hmm :/?
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