Many of you have seen the BlackBuster debate on youtube...
Because if Sony charged for their inferior service everyone world flock to the 360, one of the things that kept them afloat this gen was the free online. Eventually they had to bribe their userbase with "free" games if they subscribed to their service to stay competent.
Sony will have what you stated for free as well as free to play games allowing players to play them online even WITHOUT PS+. MS on the other hand will require Gold accounts for even free to play games.
So basically, Sony has allowed free online play on PS3 WITH dedicated servers for several games whereas MS charges you for menus, chatting and friends list regarded things with no dedicated servers for about 10 years. They will continue charging you for things Sony offers free of charge as well and you're content with that?
Oh well people, you do it to yourselves.
He really embarrassed that xbot, even got him to admit he was wrong at the end lol.
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So what it comes down to is that you feel it's okay to be charged (any price) for easy menu navigation and friends list editing?
I don't know if you're intentionally misrepresenting what I said. I never mentioned anything about menus. And I don't think "any" price is reasonable. And I didn't say anything about editing Friends Lists.
I do think $35-$40 is reasonable for the key feature of easily and quickly making a friendly Friends List that's cultivated through playing with a majority of people who have and use their mics. Especially because the free alternative (PSN) does not offer that ease or quickness or availability of friendly people (usually found in racing games online).
I concede that next-gen might be different. Unfortunately my favorite racing game of all time seems to have been discontinued on PS4. But I'm buying a PS4 anyway. So I'll find out soon enough.
TwistedxL3G3ND posted...Because if Sony charged for their inferior service everyone world flock to the 360, one of the things that kept them afloat this gen was the free online. Eventually they had to bribe their userbase with "free" games if they subscribed to their service to stay competent.
Microsoft THIS gen charged for things the PS3 didn't have, it charged for the superior online service, if PS3 charged for their service they would have never recovered from their terrible launch and if they started charging midway through the console's cycle they would have never heard the end of it. And yes they did offer dedicated servers for a few games, but aren't they also shutting down a lot of those? For example MAG, SOCOM, Motorstorm, MGO? Yeah, thanks Sony!
Even next gen Xbox live sounds like a better deal for a GAMER, free dedicated servers for all developers sounds great to me, looks like they made good use of my money.
What's the point of giving me those features free if they're charging for the most important aspect, Online Play? Now what do they have going for them? Free Youtube? Free Hulu? As if those features even matter.
I'm just stating this now, I am getting both consoles, but will only be subscribing to the superior service.
Hey guise look at my PC specs I'm sure you all care!
Didn't this start out as how would you refute what the dude in the video was saying? And now it's become xbl is a rip off.
It isn't a rip off because I'm paying for multiplayer services, like I said. Everything else is bonus. It's as simple as that. Never had xbl shut down due to hacking. Never had my info stolen.
You are trying to spin what everyone posts because you can't grasp people paying for a service that they think is worth the money. I went over all of this. It's not greedy of ms to have those features bundled with a live subscription. Most people who I play with that have live do so to play mp. Netflix and all that other stuff is nice but if it wasn't there we wouldn't care. It used to not be there. We pay to play online. It's that simple.
Mac over pc is about quality. Your words. In my eyes it's the same with live. Never had a problem with downloads never finishing, hackers, poor interface. I'm paying for quality.
To go back to my original statement, this is all OPINION based.
#1 at absolutely nothing!
It boggles my mind how some people (like the tc) can't understand one simple thing.
Reposting since you ignored it.
This is the exact demographic that blackbuster is talking about. The ones who don't quite understand that MS is charging you for features that literally don't affect connection stability online. Sony offers the same thing now but for free while you STILL get charged by MS. It boggles MY mind that none of you see this. XBL does not give you better online gameplay, all it gives you is communication between your friends. You pay whatever fee that you pay...to talk to people. That's it. Sony may have lacked this on the PS3, but they had dedicated servers for several games all for free.
MS for the next gen will not allow you to play F2P games online without a gold membership....Sony WILL allow you to play F2P games online WITHOUT a Plus membership.
MS is just taking more of your money and returning the favor with more and more Gold restrictions.
Hey FOXSOLID, what's your favorite Metal Gear?
I've owned both consoles this gen, PS3 since release and 360 since high definition was introduced.
Maybe I'm not observant enough but I have never noticed any difference between the two services. Sure the PS3 updates a fair bit (not half as bad as Xbox fans like to think) and the store isn't the best but other than that they are pretty identical in terms of connectivity and stability.
I've never been a fan of paywalls for free stuff, adverts on a paid service has always confused me too and that's why I am leaving Xbox alone this gen, until a bit further down the line when the console is cheaper.
That's my view anyway.
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Hey FOXSOLID, what's your favorite Metal Gear?
I'd have to say 1, 3 and 4.
I really liked 2 except for the plant chapter, not because of playing as Raiden, but because everything about it just looked the same with that copper color to all the struts.