A little perspective into the 4:1 ratio for preorders

#21Kosmo240985(Topic Creator)Posted 9/20/2013 8:00:36 AM
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#2282xenoPosted 9/20/2013 8:03:11 AM
Kosmo240985 posted...
you want me to respond. here is my response.

you're an idiot. better xbox one software has nothing to do with games. in lames terms so you understand, software is the tiny little program men that run around the hardwae and make it work kinda like engineers operating power plant machinery. Is an operating system a game? no its software....

i gave up onthis topic becasue there are too many idiots on this board...i'm over it.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software

Games = Software, XD
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#23IemanderPosted 9/20/2013 12:11:56 PM
Kosmo240985 posted...


you want me to respond. here is my response.

you're an idiot. better xbox one software has nothing to do with games. in lames terms so you understand, software is the tiny little program men that run around the hardwae and make it work kinda like engineers operating power plant machinery. Is an operating system a game? no its software....

i gave up onthis topic becasue there are too many idiots on this board...i'm over it.


Right, I gave a normal answer to your topic and this is the response I get? Meh
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#24BruceLee1974Posted 9/20/2013 12:19:27 PM
Its not rocket science why the ps4 has so many more preorders. Ms has done nothing right so far, and Sony has done everything right.

Ps4 is more powerful and cheaper, so why in the world would any smart person even consider a xbox1.
#25Skynet82997Posted 9/20/2013 12:21:45 PM
BruceLee1974 posted...
Its not rocket science why the ps4 has so many more preorders. Ms has done nothing right so far, and Sony has done everything right.

Ps4 is more powerful and cheaper, so why in the world would any smart person even consider a xbox1.


Because I want to play DR3, and I can't on PS4.

So, that makes me dumb I guess. But I guess when I also get a PS4 for Second Son, then I'll be smart again.
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#26Troll_DirectoryPosted 9/20/2013 12:27:07 PM
Big_Isaac posted...
<Kosmo240985 posted...
this is also why i believe the xbone and ps4 will even out for the most part. ps4 better hardware, xbox one (although more difficult to develop for) better software.


This is obviously a reference to Sony being a hardware company (electronic appliances etc.) and MS being a software company (OS and drivers etc.)
#27saleamaPosted 9/20/2013 12:31:11 PM
Kosmo240985 posted...
The real reason is quite simple. Even xbox 360/ps3 was similar.

sony is a hardware manufacturer. Their business is deepy seeding in distrobution and manufacturing facilities. Each of which can easily be converted from manufacturing a tv or a ps3/4.

microsoft is not a manufacturing company by nature. it is a software company. their business is not deeply seeded in the production of product, rather the development of product.

this is also why i believe the xbone and ps4 will even out for the most part. ps4 better hardware, xbox one (although more difficult to develop for) better software.

when the 360 released there was a huge shortage for months, when ps3 released there was never a shortage. i picked up a ps3 day one without waiting. xbox i waited at walmart for almost 20 hours for a midnight release. and they only had about 30-40 consoles and the pattern continued for months.

this is what people don't understand. ps4 has higher preorder limits not (only) becasue of demand, but becasue they can provide it. thats why xbox cut theirs off even though there is still room for more preorders.

just an example:
the regional manager at my gamestop stopped by a few weeks ago while i was buying diablo 3 and we discussed the preorders at legnth (i've been shopping at this store since i was in highschool, now 27 and we have a pretty good friendship, he was a clerk back then) said people always ask if there are more xbox preorders, he said that the preorders would be much closer if xbox could allocate more to the stores but due to manufacturing limitations they couldn't.

i know this is my opinion and it is not a proven fact, i do however have a little back ground in accounting for a software firm and an electronics manufacturer. as an accountant you may not know the nitty gritty of day to day but you do understand the structure of the business. wherever there is cost we are knee deep in controls.

tl:dr not saying it's more popular than ps4, just saying the 4 to 1 ratio floating around is skewed due to manufacturing limitations.


So....because you found a PS3....nope. I bought my 360 (the first of 7 due to rrod) on day one. Bought two of them in fact, one fore me and one for my niece. PS3 took me almost 6 months to find here in Texas. I found plenty in Poland because they were nearly $900 there and nobody could afford the thing.

Xbox one er...the first was about the same. Took a few weeks to find one and I didn't get a PS2 until about 8 months after release when the lady at Target in Belaire Md "found" a pallet of them hidden in the back of the store. I just happened to be shopping for a DVD player at the time. lol....

I imagine, even with the millions Sony says will be available, it will be the same with this Gen although I will wait at least a year for the release.
#28NeoMonkPosted 9/20/2013 12:32:21 PM
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#29LICKWIDPAlNPosted 9/20/2013 1:19:30 PM
Kosmo240985 posted...
The real reason is quite simple. Even xbox 360/ps3 was similar.

sony is a hardware manufacturer. Their business is deepy seeding in distrobution and manufacturing facilities. Each of which can easily be converted from manufacturing a tv or a ps3/4.

microsoft is not a manufacturing company by nature. it is a software company. their business is not deeply seeded in the production of product, rather the development of product.

this is also why i believe the xbone and ps4 will even out for the most part. ps4 better hardware, xbox one (although more difficult to develop for) better software.

when the 360 released there was a huge shortage for months, when ps3 released there was never a shortage. i picked up a ps3 day one without waiting. xbox i waited at walmart for almost 20 hours for a midnight release. and they only had about 30-40 consoles and the pattern continued for months.

this is what people don't understand. ps4 has higher preorder limits not (only) becasue of demand, but becasue they can provide it. thats why xbox cut theirs off even though there is still room for more preorders.

just an example:
the regional manager at my gamestop stopped by a few weeks ago while i was buying diablo 3 and we discussed the preorders at legnth (i've been shopping at this store since i was in highschool, now 27 and we have a pretty good friendship, he was a clerk back then) said people always ask if there are more xbox preorders, he said that the preorders would be much closer if xbox could allocate more to the stores but due to manufacturing limitations they couldn't.

i know this is my opinion and it is not a proven fact, i do however have a little back ground in accounting for a software firm and an electronics manufacturer. as an accountant you may not know the nitty gritty of day to day but you do understand the structure of the business. wherever there is cost we are knee deep in controls.

tl:dr not saying it's more popular than ps4, just saying the 4 to 1 ratio floating around is skewed due to manufacturing limitations.


So... much... spin.



MS cut back allowcations because of lack of preorders! You mean to tell me that PS4 with 2.2 million preorders to MS' s XBONE'S 900,000 was a strategic move?!
I'll go even further. This is unconfirmed but its hear say so think what you will....
Gamestop purposely held back preorders if the Bone because MS slapped them in the face with the DRM policy prior to the 180 BUT the demand was so low that they had no choice but to re open allocations for the XBone.
MS is BSing you about manufacturing being the sole reason.
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#30axelfooley2k5Posted 9/20/2013 1:31:30 PM
Kosmo240985 posted...
The real reason is quite simple. Even xbox 360/ps3 was similar.

sony is a hardware manufacturer. Their business is deepy seeding in distrobution and manufacturing facilities. Each of which can easily be converted from manufacturing a tv or a ps3/4.

microsoft is not a manufacturing company by nature. it is a software company. their business is not deeply seeded in the production of product, rather the development of product.

this is also why i believe the xbone and ps4 will even out for the most part. ps4 better hardware, xbox one (although more difficult to develop for) better software.

when the 360 released there was a huge shortage for months, when ps3 released there was never a shortage. i picked up a ps3 day one without waiting. xbox i waited at walmart for almost 20 hours for a midnight release. and they only had about 30-40 consoles and the pattern continued for months.

this is what people don't understand. ps4 has higher preorder limits not (only) becasue of demand, but becasue they can provide it. thats why xbox cut theirs off even though there is still room for more preorders.

just an example:
the regional manager at my gamestop stopped by a few weeks ago while i was buying diablo 3 and we discussed the preorders at legnth (i've been shopping at this store since i was in highschool, now 27 and we have a pretty good friendship, he was a clerk back then) said people always ask if there are more xbox preorders, he said that the preorders would be much closer if xbox could allocate more to the stores but due to manufacturing limitations they couldn't.

i know this is my opinion and it is not a proven fact, i do however have a little back ground in accounting for a software firm and an electronics manufacturer. as an accountant you may not know the nitty gritty of day to day but you do understand the structure of the business. wherever there is cost we are knee deep in controls.

tl:dr not saying it's more popular than ps4, just saying the 4 to 1 ratio floating around is skewed due to manufacturing limitations.


well that was a fun fictional piece
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