Am I the only one that's very worried about what Phil Harrison just said?

#71FriedLemonPosted 10/2/2013 8:06:32 PM
kidwgm posted...
Easy. Look at the trajectory this is going with all mediums. Gaming is going to go all digital maybe not completely this next gen but is going to happen.


http://www.discwizards.com/articles/Digital-Downloads-Versus-Physical-CD-DVD-Blu-ray-Sales-UK-2012.htm

Physical CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales dominate UK digital downloads 2012.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130415digital

Physical sales of music are roughly 9 times larger than digital.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/05/15/e-book-sales/2159117/

Growth of ebook sales are slowing down, and that's in the context of hardcovers still currently outselling ebooks 3-1.

The trajectory of all mediums clearly demonstrates that physical is here to stay. To say that the future will be digital only is like saying the earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary.
#72bob15xPosted 10/2/2013 8:17:15 PM
FriedLemon posted...
kidwgm posted...
Easy. Look at the trajectory this is going with all mediums. Gaming is going to go all digital maybe not completely this next gen but is going to happen.


http://www.discwizards.com/articles/Digital-Downloads-Versus-Physical-CD-DVD-Blu-ray-Sales-UK-2012.htm

Physical CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales dominate UK digital downloads 2012.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130415digital

Physical sales of music are roughly 9 times larger than digital.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/05/15/e-book-sales/2159117/

Growth of ebook sales are slowing down, and that's in the context of hardcovers still currently outselling ebooks 3-1.

The trajectory of all mediums clearly demonstrates that physical is here to stay. To say that the future will be digital only is like saying the earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary.


Yet, digital will be the future, you are fooling yourself and are in complete denial to think otherwise.
It was not long ago, in fact, this past gen gamers were completely convinced that full game downloads would not be one of the norms.

guess what, it is.

Music industry and Books do not inherently need the internet to advance in features. Gaming does. so while you will never need to have internet access to read a hard cover book, you will soon need to have internet to use a gaming console or play games on the pc. With that already in place, it is an easy transition to all digital, with the ability of buying disks as a distribution method for digital like MS was doing.

the majority of people in the industry know this to be true, it is only the gamers that are holding their disks tight unwilling to move forward.

So tc, yes, it is the future, learn to deal with it.
#73FriedLemonPosted 10/2/2013 8:19:54 PM
pigman2003 posted...
Their will always be discs, don't take things out of context, that's how wars start.


www.gamespot.com/pax/microsoft-talks-digital-only-future-kinect-and-why-xbox-one-is-worth-100-more-than-playstation-4-6413920/

A digital-only future for gaming is "going to happen," Xbox director Albert Penello told GameSpot during PAX Prime

Noone is taking anything out of context.
#74FriedLemonPosted 10/2/2013 8:31:56 PM
bob15x posted...
FriedLemon posted...
kidwgm posted...
Easy. Look at the trajectory this is going with all mediums. Gaming is going to go all digital maybe not completely this next gen but is going to happen.


http://www.discwizards.com/articles/Digital-Downloads-Versus-Physical-CD-DVD-Blu-ray-Sales-UK-2012.htm

Physical CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales dominate UK digital downloads 2012.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130415digital

Physical sales of music are roughly 9 times larger than digital.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/05/15/e-book-sales/2159117/

Growth of ebook sales are slowing down, and that's in the context of hardcovers still currently outselling ebooks 3-1.

The trajectory of all mediums clearly demonstrates that physical is here to stay. To say that the future will be digital only is like saying the earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary.


Yet, digital will be the future, you are fooling yourself and are in complete denial to think otherwise.
It was not long ago, in fact, this past gen gamers were completely convinced that full game downloads would not be one of the norms.

guess what, it is.

Music industry and Books do not inherently need the internet to advance in features. Gaming does. so while you will never need to have internet access to read a hard cover book, you will soon need to have internet to use a gaming console or play games on the pc. With that already in place, it is an easy transition to all digital, with the ability of buying disks as a distribution method for digital like MS was doing.

the majority of people in the industry know this to be true, it is only the gamers that are holding their disks tight unwilling to move forward.

So tc, yes, it is the future, learn to deal with it.


Single player games do not need internet access. Sure there are advantages to digital gaming just like how it's more convenient to stream movies rather than using the physical based medium. That however, did not stop the physical based mediums crushing their digital counterparts. I've provided hard facts as evidence, all you've provided is an opinion. Who's fooling who and who's in denial I wonder?
#75kyncaniPosted 10/2/2013 8:39:46 PM
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Also worth mentioning: The DRM stuff was so unpopular they had to overhaul their console or face a complete and utter failure at launch. The fact they backed down on what seemed like a key component is proof that they've learned not to go against the grain again regarding this issue.


They didn't really back down like someone would, you know :

"Oh, gosh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize, that's a mistake on my part, sorry, of course I'll remove it, my bad."


What they did was try as hard as they could to make us swallow that stuff, insult us in the process and then begrudgingly removed some things nobody wants while saying repeatedly everywhere :

"But we know we're right and we'll work to bring back those features in a controlled fashion; we're not giving up."


So yeah, that's clearly not what we wanted to hear.
#76bob15xPosted 10/3/2013 6:38:55 AM
FriedLemon posted...
bob15x posted...
FriedLemon posted...
kidwgm posted...
Easy. Look at the trajectory this is going with all mediums. Gaming is going to go all digital maybe not completely this next gen but is going to happen.


http://www.discwizards.com/articles/Digital-Downloads-Versus-Physical-CD-DVD-Blu-ray-Sales-UK-2012.htm

Physical CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales dominate UK digital downloads 2012.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130415digital

Physical sales of music are roughly 9 times larger than digital.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/05/15/e-book-sales/2159117/

Growth of ebook sales are slowing down, and that's in the context of hardcovers still currently outselling ebooks 3-1.

The trajectory of all mediums clearly demonstrates that physical is here to stay. To say that the future will be digital only is like saying the earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary.


Yet, digital will be the future, you are fooling yourself and are in complete denial to think otherwise.
It was not long ago, in fact, this past gen gamers were completely convinced that full game downloads would not be one of the norms.

guess what, it is.

Music industry and Books do not inherently need the internet to advance in features. Gaming does. so while you will never need to have internet access to read a hard cover book, you will soon need to have internet to use a gaming console or play games on the pc. With that already in place, it is an easy transition to all digital, with the ability of buying disks as a distribution method for digital like MS was doing.

the majority of people in the industry know this to be true, it is only the gamers that are holding their disks tight unwilling to move forward.

So tc, yes, it is the future, learn to deal with it.


Single player games do not need internet access. Sure there are advantages to digital gaming just like how it's more convenient to stream movies rather than using the physical based medium. That however, did not stop the physical based mediums crushing their digital counterparts. I've provided hard facts as evidence, all you've provided is an opinion. Who's fooling who and who's in denial I wonder?


The future will be the proof. and are you not noticing the decline in single player only experience. sony many games are moving to a hybrid type of online/singleplayer.

So the majority of the industry agree it is going all digital, but we should believe you, a person that knows very little.

ok then.
#77FriedLemonPosted 10/3/2013 5:00:40 PM
bob15x posted...
FriedLemon posted...
bob15x posted...
FriedLemon posted...
kidwgm posted...
Easy. Look at the trajectory this is going with all mediums. Gaming is going to go all digital maybe not completely this next gen but is going to happen.


http://www.discwizards.com/articles/Digital-Downloads-Versus-Physical-CD-DVD-Blu-ray-Sales-UK-2012.htm

Physical CD, DVD and Blu-ray sales dominate UK digital downloads 2012.

http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130415digital

Physical sales of music are roughly 9 times larger than digital.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/books/2013/05/15/e-book-sales/2159117/

Growth of ebook sales are slowing down, and that's in the context of hardcovers still currently outselling ebooks 3-1.

The trajectory of all mediums clearly demonstrates that physical is here to stay. To say that the future will be digital only is like saying the earth is flat despite all the evidence to the contrary.


Yet, digital will be the future, you are fooling yourself and are in complete denial to think otherwise.
It was not long ago, in fact, this past gen gamers were completely convinced that full game downloads would not be one of the norms.

guess what, it is.

Music industry and Books do not inherently need the internet to advance in features. Gaming does. so while you will never need to have internet access to read a hard cover book, you will soon need to have internet to use a gaming console or play games on the pc. With that already in place, it is an easy transition to all digital, with the ability of buying disks as a distribution method for digital like MS was doing.

the majority of people in the industry know this to be true, it is only the gamers that are holding their disks tight unwilling to move forward.

So tc, yes, it is the future, learn to deal with it.


Single player games do not need internet access. Sure there are advantages to digital gaming just like how it's more convenient to stream movies rather than using the physical based medium. That however, did not stop the physical based mediums crushing their digital counterparts. I've provided hard facts as evidence, all you've provided is an opinion. Who's fooling who and who's in denial I wonder?


The future will be the proof. and are you not noticing the decline in single player only experience. sony many games are moving to a hybrid type of online/singleplayer.

So the majority of the industry agree it is going all digital, but we should believe you, a person that knows very little.

ok then.


Are you not noticing the increase in single player only experience. "sony" (?) many games are moving to single player.

So the majority of the industry agree that there will always be physical, but we should believe you, a person that knows very little.

ok then.

See what I did there. Amazing how people can continue to spout their ignorance when hard evidence is presented that directly contradicts them.