Xbox One Can Work Like a TV That Watches Consumers In Their Living Rooms
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3 years ago#71
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(Topic Creator)3 years ago#72
ITT: Episode VI: Return of the Tin Foil Hat
Except this time it's Microsoft themselves saying it.
They're outright telling you they'll collect data through the kinect for marketing purposes.
I really don't see how this has anything to do with tin foil hats anymore, they're telling you it straight to your face.
3 years ago#73
Microsoft please stop deploying your rep. to the forums
(Topic Creator)3 years ago#74
3 years ago#75
I'm not ignoring that at all, I'm simply asking whether people who got their Skype footage collected by Microsoft and the NSA had the choice to opt-in for that as well.
As far as collecting the footage? I have no idea. What's your point? This has nothing to do with marketing the footage, but giving it to the NSA which is a completely different legal matter. A matter which is being decided in the courts as we speak. With that said, selling collected data for marketing purposes is settled. They require permission.
It's also stated quite clearly in the ToU that you agree to all of this:
And once AGAIN, you fail to miss the point. Collecting the data doesn't mean a damn thing. Virtually any social networking site is collecting personal data about you via ad revenue and searching algorithms. Google is the king of this practice. No one really cares if companies collect data, they care if the data is sold to marketing firms which will then call and harass them. This is illegal without consent. Here's an example of this exact provision:
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(Topic Creator)3 years ago#76
It just shows that they collected data in a legal way simply by having people agree to the ToU.
They never said they're selling the data, they're making it available for market research.
Which you agree to by agreeing to the ToU.
And once AGAIN, you fail to miss the point. Collecting the data doesn't mean a damn thing. Virtually any social networking site is collecting personal data about you via ad revenue and searching algorithms. Google is the king of this practice. No one really cares if companies collect data, they care if the data is sold to marketing firms which will then call and harass them.
This isn't just collecting data through clicking ads, this is collecting data with a camera that racks your eye-movements and heartbeat.
I understand the point, you're just arguing a different one.
You're trying to say it's alright to kick someone in the nuts, if they've already been punched in the face.
Whether they sell this data or analyze it themselves and just charge more for ads (which would circumvent that entirely) is a different story all together.
The point here is that you're giving Microsoft direct access to your living room with an HD camera.
I'm fairly certain no one would allow this into their house if you told them this.
It's only because it's being disguised as a toy that people think it's harmless.
This is illegal without consent. Here's an example of this exact provision:
This is entirely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, because it's not about "content you make", it's about data collection.
Data collection and self created/published content are not the same thing.
What is a lot more important is that you give them consent to use your data through the ToU.
It's not a conspiracy, it's what's actually happening:
You're giving Microsoft consent to collect data in your living room with an HD, eye-movement and heart rate tracking camera.
3 years ago#77
Congrats tc, everyone is getting ps4 no one is getting x1. Are you happy now? Is this what you want? That was an excellent post tc, keep up the great work.
Your arguement is ancient, back in june people were arguing about this. Kinect doesnt have to be plugged in.
Sony promised 30 first year exclusives for ps4 first year. Too bad they are mostly indy titles.
(Topic Creator)3 years ago#78
My argument is ancient, but was always said to be false.
Now Microsoft themselves have come out and said it's true.
Great! You can disconnect the mandatory device and use it as a $143 paperweight!
Of course, you will still be saying that it's okay for Microsoft to do this to people who don't know what exactly the kinect is used for.
3 years ago#79
Only terrorists worry about someone watching what they do.
You and the entire world could spy on me all day long, and I wouldn't give a single crap because I have nothing to hide. You might even learn something.
(Topic Creator)3 years ago#80
Only terrorists worry about someone watching what they do.
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