Sorry, fellow Sony Ponies, I am now an Xbox Won convert!

#31ArkonBladePosted 10/7/2013 11:08:06 PM
JohnHalo343 posted...
Good, thank Gates one of these Sony Fanboys finally seen their misguided views for what they actually were: delusions.

Now you must confess your sins and transgressions as a Sony Fanboy before you are truly accepted among the ranks of good, honest, hardworking Xbox Fans.


Sigh


SaintSeiyaX you are not fooling any one with your alt accounts.
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#32SoulTrapperPosted 10/7/2013 11:40:55 PM
Ch3wy posted...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy


A privacy statement is not legally binding.
Neither is a ToU, but you get the point.


http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou

Your privacy is important to us. We collect certain information about you to operate and provide the Services. We may also automatically upload information about your computer, your use of the Services, and Services' performance as part of the Services.

Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region.

If you use the Xbox console with Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services.



Now, it all comes down to whether you trust the company involved in the biggest spying scandal in history not to do the same thing they've been doing for years when you give them access to a camera in your living room.

Their ToU clearly states that you agree to give them access to the data.

On top of that, we don't know what exactly the opt-in button will be, it could very well be connected to your access to xbox live.
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#33chrish909Posted 10/8/2013 4:16:22 AM
SoulTrapper posted...
Ch3wy posted...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy


A privacy statement is not legally binding.
Neither is a ToU, but you get the point.


http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou

Your privacy is important to us. We collect certain information about you to operate and provide the Services. We may also automatically upload information about your computer, your use of the Services, and Services' performance as part of the Services.

Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region.

If you use the Xbox console with Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services.



Now, it all comes down to whether you trust the company involved in the biggest spying scandal in history not to do the same thing they've been doing for years when you give them access to a camera in your living room.

Their ToU clearly states that you agree to give them access to the data.

On top of that, we don't know what exactly the opt-in button will be, it could very well be connected to your access to xbox live.



All that to save one convert. Soultrapper is the saddest troll on these forum. Its pretty funny to read his giant desperation posts trying to convince people to get ps4 over x1. Nobody is going to have their opinion swayed about console preference because of a policy, its about the games. Maybe try killzone is really good game(lol)

Soultrapper, do you think when the console release all x1 users will live like microsoft prisoners and ps4 users will be free to live their lives.
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#34SoulTrapperPosted 10/8/2013 4:20:33 AM
chrish909 posted...
SoulTrapper posted...
Ch3wy posted...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy


A privacy statement is not legally binding.
Neither is a ToU, but you get the point.


http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou

Your privacy is important to us. We collect certain information about you to operate and provide the Services. We may also automatically upload information about your computer, your use of the Services, and Services' performance as part of the Services.

Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region.

If you use the Xbox console with Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services.



Now, it all comes down to whether you trust the company involved in the biggest spying scandal in history not to do the same thing they've been doing for years when you give them access to a camera in your living room.

Their ToU clearly states that you agree to give them access to the data.

On top of that, we don't know what exactly the opt-in button will be, it could very well be connected to your access to xbox live.



A lot of rambling and ad hominem


Yeah, I agree.

I wouldn't trust a company that's been involved in the biggest spying scandal in history and that lied to people about this very thing just a week ago either.
Good to see we're on the same page here.
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#35axelfooley2k5Posted 10/8/2013 4:24:45 AM
TheBorderCollie posted...
Ch3wy posted...
SoulTrapper posted...
Ch3wy posted...


They've plainly and explicitly said that you need to opt in before it collects any data.


Yeah, just like you had to opt-in to get spied on through Skype, right?

Besides that, you opt-in by simply agreeing to the ToU, which already state you consent to giving them your personal data.


http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

You can play games or enjoy applications that use data, such as videos, photos, facial expressions, heart rate and more, but this data will not leave your Xbox One without your explicit permission.


Come on bro. Quit grasping at straws here.


To be fair, "straws" are about all the haters have left anymore....


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#36Ch3wyPosted 10/8/2013 4:31:11 AM
SoulTrapper posted...
Ch3wy posted...

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy


A privacy statement is not legally binding.
Neither is a ToU, but you get the point.


http://www.xbox.com/en-us/legal/livetou

Your privacy is important to us. We collect certain information about you to operate and provide the Services. We may also automatically upload information about your computer, your use of the Services, and Services' performance as part of the Services.

Personal information collected by Microsoft may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country or region in which Microsoft or its affiliates, subsidiaries, or service providers maintain facilities. You consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country or region.

If you use the Xbox console with Kinect, we may also collect data about the way in which you interact with the console and the Services to improve Microsoft products and services.



Now, it all comes down to whether you trust the company involved in the biggest spying scandal in history not to do the same thing they've been doing for years when you give them access to a camera in your living room.

Their ToU clearly states that you agree to give them access to the data.

On top of that, we don't know what exactly the opt-in button will be, it could very well be connected to your access to xbox live.


They've said the opt-in button will be clear as day. And it will be optional, which means it's not required in order to use anything. Once again you're grasping at straws here.

It's stupid to just sit there and accuse the company you're biased against of lying. Sony has lied too, and were involved in one of the worst DRM scandals in history. Who's to say they haven't lied about their used game policies? Why aren't you ranting about that?
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#37SoulTrapperPosted 10/8/2013 5:01:07 AM(edited)
Ch3wy posted...

They've said the opt-in button will be clear as day. And it will be optional, which means it's not required in order to use anything. Once again you're grasping at straws here.

It's stupid to just sit there and accuse the company you're biased against of lying. Sony has lied too, and were involved in one of the worst DRM scandals in history. Who's to say they haven't lied about their used game policies? Why aren't you ranting about that?


"They've said"

They've said a lot of things, including that the NSA wasn't capable of looking into skype footage, that the kinect was an integral part of the system, that the xbox would be available at launch in 21 countries, etc etc

Once again, it comes down to trusting a company involved in one of the biggest spying scandals in history.

Sony has lied, many times, were did I deny this or what does that have to do with this, at all?
You wouldn't happen to be deflecting, now would you?

The sony music branch was involved in a spying scandal, not a DRM scandal (at least not as far as I know).

I'm not ranting about that, because there is no evidence or reason to believe they lied about used games.
Unless you've got evidence, if you do, by all means post it.
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#38Ch3wyPosted 10/8/2013 5:06:50 AM
SoulTrapper posted...
Ch3wy posted...

They've said the opt-in button will be clear as day. And it will be optional, which means it's not required in order to use anything. Once again you're grasping at straws here.

It's stupid to just sit there and accuse the company you're biased against of lying. Sony has lied too, and were involved in one of the worst DRM scandals in history. Who's to say they haven't lied about their used game policies? Why aren't you ranting about that?


"They've said"

They've said a lot of things, including that the NSA wasn't capable of looking into skype footage, that the kinect was an integral part of the system, that the xbox would be available at launch in 21 countries, etc etc

Once again, it comes down to trusting a company involved in one of the biggest spying scandals in history.

Sony has lied, many times, were did I deny this or what does that have to do with this, at all?
You wouldn't happen to be deflecting, now would you?

The sony music branch was involved in a spying scandal, not a DRM scandal (at least not as far as I know).

I'm not ranting about that, because there is no evidence or reason to believe they lied about it.
Unless you've got evidence, if you do, by all means post it.


It was a DRM and spying scandal. All in one. They denied it and lied about it several times and even released a second rootkit that only masked the other rootkit and did some nasty things on its own. It's pretty well documented, just look it up.

You're talking about trusting companies here and it's well known you're cool with Sony. . Microsoft has only done what the government has made them do - Sony has simply never been put in that situation that we know of because they aren't as big on the software side of things.

So is Sony collecting all chat data through headsets? Are they going to implement the same kind of DRM that Microsoft was planning on?

There's nothing to say they can't. It's just about whether or not you trust a company that's been involved in the worst DRM scandal in history.
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#39SoulTrapperPosted 10/8/2013 5:16:55 AM
Ch3wy posted...

It was a DRM and spying scandal. All in one. They denied it and lied about it several times and even released a second rootkit that only masked the other rootkit and did some nasty things on its own. It's pretty well documented, just look it up.


Yes, that's what the Sony music branch did.
I'm not denying any of this.

Sony is an awful company in many aspects (from lying about all the ps3 stuff to that spying thing).

But again, I fail to see how this is relevant or how it would excuse Microsoft for lying.

It's not because Billy killed a cat, that it's okay for Tommy to do the same.

You're talking about trusting companies here and it's well known you're cool with Sony. . Microsoft has only done what the government has made them do - Sony has simply never been put in that situation that we know of because they aren't as big on the software side of things.


It's well known I'm cool with Sony?
Where exactly does that originate from?
I'm not getting either console at launch (and might not even get either next year depending on how the steambox turns out), but it's pretty obvious the ps4 is the best choice for the consumer at this point.

Microsoft had many other options, including paying a fine and not having to spy.
They chose for the spying.

So is Sony collecting all chat data through headsets? Are they going to implement the same kind of DRM that Microsoft was planning on?

There's nothing to say they can't. It's just about whether or not you trust a company that's been involved in the worst DRM scandal in history.


I have no clue about that, if you could provide some article or some statement by Sony saying that they will, please do so, as I did about MS doing this.

There's still a big difference between collecting voice chat (which MS has already confirmed they will be doing btw) and an actual camera collecting data.
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#40freakaccidentPosted 10/8/2013 5:18:37 AM
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