Would the US goverment shutdown effect xbox one release?

#51googlerPosted 10/16/2013 4:37:26 PM
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#52rockman11_zPosted 10/16/2013 4:52:52 PM
NerdimusPrime posted...
rockman11_z posted...
The problem about the ACA is why penalize a person if they don't have health insurance.


It's not a penalty, it's a tax to cover your uninsured ass.


Yes it is, troll. Educate yourself and get a life.
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#53googlerPosted 10/16/2013 4:56:47 PM
"Yeah down with the system, rage against the machine,....or whatever uninformed children like to rant about these days. At what point did I mention any of these conflicts (or even attempt to justify them)? This is about the problem at hand, the US defaulting on it's debts for the 1st time in history and the potential repercussions. If this happens, the US will get another downgrade in it's credit rating and the people we owe will put their money somewhere else. This will have worldwide consequences (if it hasn't already). please leave your conspiratorial BS at the door, this isn't the Alex Jones hour."

how about this - explain how rather than regurgitate the same crap on any sold-out news network pukes out without an explanation...just that it will happen. They're full of ****. Defaulting won't matter because it's all the loans were done in good faith and on top of that, just like any other default that has occurred. Our country has no way of paying it back in the first place because they lied about what dire straights we're all in. Our jobs were given away to other countries therefore we produce nothing. Nearly the entire GDP is in healthcare, banking, and accounting scams. If its what Obama said, then what ****Ing sense does it make to borrow more debt to pay off debt - it's the equivalent of paying off the late fees and minimum due of your 30% APR credit card with a 500% interest payday loan AND THEN asking the credit card company to raise your credit limit which you can't afford. They made no effort to pay off what's already there and instead wanted to keep borrowing and borrowing because they know it won't matter in the end. Its like someone quiting smoking and deciding to start to eat healthy the week before they planned to kill themselves. Everything right now is to play the blame game, and notice the people both sides are blaming amidst all the theatrical in-fighting are the people who are demanding fiscal responsibility and general accountability for their actions
#54NerdimusPrimePosted 10/16/2013 5:03:21 PM(edited)
googler posted...
"Yeah down with the system, rage against the machine,....or whatever uninformed children like to rant about these days. At what point did I mention any of these conflicts (or even attempt to justify them)? This is about the problem at hand, the US defaulting on it's debts for the 1st time in history and the potential repercussions. If this happens, the US will get another downgrade in it's credit rating and the people we owe will put their money somewhere else. This will have worldwide consequences (if it hasn't already). please leave your conspiratorial BS at the door, this isn't the Alex Jones hour."

how about this - explain how rather than regurgitate the same crap on any sold-out news network pukes out without an explanation...just that it will happen. They're full of ****. Defaulting won't matter because it's all the loans were done in good faith and on top of that, just like any other default that has occurred. Our country has no way of paying it back in the first place because they lied about what dire straights we're all in. Our jobs were given away to other countries therefore we produce nothing. Nearly the entire GDP is in healthcare, banking, and accounting scams. If its what Obama said, then what ****Ing sense does it make to borrow more debt to pay off debt - it's the equivalent of paying off the late fees and minimum due of your 30% APR credit card with a 500% interest payday loan AND THEN asking the credit card company to raise your credit limit which you can't afford. They made no effort to pay off what's already there and instead wanted to keep borrowing and borrowing because they know it won't matter in the end. Its like someone quiting smoking and deciding to start to eat healthy the week before they planned to kill themselves. Everything right now is to play the blame game, and notice the people both sides are blaming amidst all the theatrical in-fighting are the people who are demanding fiscal responsibility and general accountability for their actions


Loans made in good faith won't continue to be made if we don't pay them back. Even with the massive debt we are floating, the US dollar is the world's de facto reserve currency. It stays this way because we pay our debts (eventually) 100% of the time, we are a sound investment...unless we decide to default. If that happens, don't be surprised when people look to invest in something else than US T- bonds.
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#55Cowboy082288Posted 10/16/2013 5:25:16 PM
NerdimusPrime posted...
googler posted...
"Yeah down with the system, rage against the machine,....or whatever uninformed children like to rant about these days. At what point did I mention any of these conflicts (or even attempt to justify them)? This is about the problem at hand, the US defaulting on it's debts for the 1st time in history and the potential repercussions. If this happens, the US will get another downgrade in it's credit rating and the people we owe will put their money somewhere else. This will have worldwide consequences (if it hasn't already). please leave your conspiratorial BS at the door, this isn't the Alex Jones hour."

how about this - explain how rather than regurgitate the same crap on any sold-out news network pukes out without an explanation...just that it will happen. They're full of ****. Defaulting won't matter because it's all the loans were done in good faith and on top of that, just like any other default that has occurred. Our country has no way of paying it back in the first place because they lied about what dire straights we're all in. Our jobs were given away to other countries therefore we produce nothing. Nearly the entire GDP is in healthcare, banking, and accounting scams. If its what Obama said, then what ****Ing sense does it make to borrow more debt to pay off debt - it's the equivalent of paying off the late fees and minimum due of your 30% APR credit card with a 500% interest payday loan AND THEN asking the credit card company to raise your credit limit which you can't afford. They made no effort to pay off what's already there and instead wanted to keep borrowing and borrowing because they know it won't matter in the end. Its like someone quiting smoking and deciding to start to eat healthy the week before they planned to kill themselves. Everything right now is to play the blame game, and notice the people both sides are blaming amidst all the theatrical in-fighting are the people who are demanding fiscal responsibility and general accountability for their actions


Loans made in good faith won't continue to be made if we don't pay them back. Even with the massive debt we are floating, the US dollar is the world's de facto reserve currency. It stays this way because we pay our debts (eventually) 100% of the time, we are a sound investment...unless we decide to default. If that happens, don't be surprised when people look to invest in something else than US T- bonds.


I'm not taking sides on this but plz understand that the sort of defaulting your talking about really is not possible. USA federal budget is divided into 2 sections. Mandatory spending and discretionary spending. The ONE item in mandatory is interest on our debt. The reason that is mandatory is because it is specifically mandated by the constitution. In other words congress does not have a choice on this. US federal gov takes in about 2.5 trillion in revenue (taxes), and interest on national debt is about 200-300 billion doallars. In other words USA has enough revenue to cover the debt. Since the first thing federal budget is used for is to cover debt interest there is zero risk of defaulting.

The sort of default that the president and other are talking about is not funding certain things like SS, Medicare/medicaid, Military, Welfare, Works projects, foreign aid.... ect. These things are all discretionary spending. None of these things are technically defaulting on debt. Though defunding some of these things could have drastic consequences. Point is, it's not really defaulting in the since that you are talking about.
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#56ILikesCheesePosted 10/18/2013 11:39:16 AM
googler posted...
ILikesCheese posted...
googler posted...
GrandMast3r posted...
The government is not shut down, don't be fooled by what the media is telling you. People are living their normal lives, nothing at all has changed, absolutely nothing.

this. All the presidents people did was do petty **** in a weak attempt to annoy and inconvenience people and screw over some to play partisan b.s.

You guys are like twelve, aren't you?
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how so?...proposals to fund certain things in the meantime went to the Whitehouse several times until a consensus is reached and each one declined by the jackass in chief. He doesn't want to hear anything unless its his way 100% otherwise he threatens a veto. If that's not childish then what is?


What is childish is the Republican directive to 'reach a common ground' or 'come to the middle on an issue' when their tentpole stance is so ridiculously far to the right that a their view of the "middle" is still fully ensconced within the Conservative realms.

They only came to a cease-fire this week to delay the issue until after elections. Oh yeah, and that credit default thingie. I fully expect this silliness to start up again in mid-December. Thank the gods that we have a president who finally discovered he has some balls and doesn't have to put up with Republican bullying tactics anymore.

You guys seem quite young or very much mis-informed about exactly how government works and the true ins and outs of what is actually going on with the Government Shut Down and Congress. I'm afraid you are just re-iterating your parents viewpoints, and that is a shame. Yet another generation of ignorant voters in the making.

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#57EllesarienPosted 10/18/2013 12:03:34 PM
In the end...the Tea Party representatives are trying to blackmail the budget to try to remove a PASSED LAW.

It is setting a precedent that will be disastrous.
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I will try and see it from your point of view, but I doubt we'll be able to fit both our heads up there.