Xbox One originally suppose to release in 2014?

#11FoppePosted 10/15/2013 5:45:43 AM
Asd202 posted...
It's rushed hence launching in only 13 countries this year.


Was the PS3 rushed?
Because it was only released in 5 countries launch year.
Was the Playstation rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Was the Snes rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Nes?
Only in one country.
Xbox?
Only released in NA.
Nintendo 64?
Only in Japan and NA.
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#12ILikesCheesePosted 10/15/2013 6:20:08 AM
tadmfpole posted...
Xbox One originally suppose to release in 2014?...But was rushed to release on time to compete with PS4 after Sony surprised them? Any truth to this?


Yes.

But since there is and will never be an "official" report from Microsoft on the issue, this fact will always remain in the "rumor" category, especially to the MS Defenders and their PR spin team. Anyone with an eye for business, a few grains of common sense and a knack for connecting the obvious dots can deduce that Sony took MS completely by surprise back in February.
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#13ILikesCheesePosted 10/15/2013 6:26:14 AM
HENTAIDOJI posted...
Already dennounced by a dev at beyond 3d. It was always due 2013. Thats why it has more exclusives.


Yes, we must always believe Microsoft and those who work for it, right? They never release false details to the public, especially truths that would hurt their image. Oh wait.....you must not have been paying much attention to their official press reports and interviews since May, have you?

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#14ejay8320Posted 10/15/2013 6:41:11 AM(edited)
Foppe posted...
Asd202 posted...
It's rushed hence launching in only 13 countries this year.


Was the PS3 rushed?
Because it was only released in 5 countries launch year.
Was the Playstation rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Was the Snes rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Nes?
Only in one country.
Xbox?
Only released in NA.
Nintendo 64?
Only in Japan and NA.


It's being considered as rushed because it was slated for 21 countries and they reduced their launch area.

Like it or not the reduction of from 21 to 13 launch countries is a negative for the customers, no matter what the reason.

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#15ILikesCheesePosted 10/15/2013 8:53:42 AM
Foppe posted...
Asd202 posted...
It's rushed hence launching in only 13 countries this year.


Was the PS3 rushed?
Because it was only released in 5 countries launch year.
Was the Playstation rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Was the Snes rushed?
It was only released in Japan at launch year.
Nes?
Only in one country.
Xbox?
Only released in NA.
Nintendo 64?
Only in Japan and NA.

Taking the argument back to the 80s and 90s isn't relevant to the current video game industry. It was a VERY different market back then, especially between the East and the West, than it is today.

And yes, the PS3 was indeed rushed. Sony was making a fortune off of the PS2 and its games and was in NO hurry to go to the next gen, Blu-Ray or not. They did not expect Microsoft to settle on a 4 year lifespan for the OS Xbox.

Decreasing the number of announced launch countries by such a significant margin is a clear sign that work isn't on schedule because deadlines are not being met. The timeline for work orders was just too short and impossible to complete. (Same goes for releasing Forza 5 unfinished.) Also, having VPs with little to no knowledge of their product at their own launch event is a bit of a clue-in as well.

Anyone with a brain can connect all the dots. And there are a LOT of dots out there.
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#16HENTAIDOJIPosted 10/15/2013 9:39:28 AM
ILikesCheese posted...
tadmfpole posted...
Xbox One originally suppose to release in 2014?...But was rushed to release on time to compete with PS4 after Sony surprised them? Any truth to this?


Yes.

But since there is and will never be an "official" report from Microsoft on the issue, this fact will always remain in the "rumor" category, especially to the MS Defenders and their PR spin team. Anyone with an eye for business, a few grains of common sense and a knack for connecting the obvious dots can deduce that Sony took MS completely by surprise back in February.


I guess thats why it passed FCC first, has more launch games, had final designs and finalised devkits before Sony. Forza 5 only had 3 months development time by E3.
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#17mmm_BabyBoyPosted 10/15/2013 11:20:43 AM
Eoin posted...
This is something I don't really believe.

In June 2012, a document that was supposedly Microsoft's "Xbox 720" roadmap leaked. The document, apparently dated 2010, included details of their next console - provisional specs, accessories, marketing strategies, and a few other bits and pieces. People doubted it was real because we never get that lucky in terms of leaks. We get snippets here and there, not full PowerPoints.

However, the passage of time has made that document seem like it's real. First, Microsoft's lawyers demanded that it be pulled (nowhere close to proof, in and of itself). Then....basically everything started matching the document. (Posting it here might be against the ToS but it is not very difficult to locate online).

That document has a very high hit rate, and even the things that are wrong are things that plausibly could have changed between 2010 and 2013. It talks about a console with Blu-ray, a new Kinect, HDMI in, low power states, multitasking, TV integration, an 8-core processor, eDRAM (which it mentions potentially upgrading to eSRAM), the second screen stuff, cloud processing...even the slogan "Input One". It's been, in other words, pretty accurate. The only thing that stands out as hugely different to reality is the price, as the slides talk about a US$299 box.

One part of it is Microsoft's predicted timeline of the future, and it's very close to reality. It includes AppleTV (which Microsoft apparently worried about), GoogleTV (ditto), OnLive (called out later as a potential acquisition target), the next Nintendo console (Microsoft got the price wrong, but then, so did Nintendo, so that's understandable)...and the next Sony console. Microsoft get some details wrong - they predict that Sony will push 3D and GoogleTV (not terrible predictions in 2010), but the rest is all correct - a high-tech, all-in-one, Blu-ray box at US$399 called PS4 in Holiday 2013.

The amazing part isn't that Microsoft were panicked by Sony and rushed and got things wrong. It's that they knew exactly what was coming and still managed to get things wrong.

I think Microsoft expected a November 2013 release for the PS4, in basically its current form, except with 2GB or 4GB of GDDR5. This would mean that the PS4 had a better GPU and higher bandwidth to memory, but the Xbox One would have more memory to play with, embedded memory to partially make up for the bandwidth disadvantage, and TV features and Kinect. If they imagined that as part of a US$300 package, then in 2010 that would look like a very winnable next generation.

Instead, though, TV became far less important, Kinect got disowned by dedicated gamers, and the PS4 turned out to have 8GB of GDDR5, meaning that the Xbox One's advantages evaporated - leaving Sony with a better GPU, higher bandwidth to memory, and more memory (for games), while Microsoft were stuck with the dinosaur of TV, a motion sensor very few people really want, and it turns out that they got the pricing wrong and are on the wrong side of a US$100 gap instead of the right side like they planned to be.


Most well constructed post I've seen on GameFAQs.