Pre-order current numbers (Killzone beating all xbox one exclusives combined)

#111DesperateMonkeyPosted 10/19/2013 8:53:44 AM
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#112assassin10133Posted 10/19/2013 10:02:37 AM
stevieb1234567 posted...
assassin10133 posted...
JWJW99 posted...
Ellesarien posted...
PS4 - Dudebros console confirmed :)


Lawl @ Forza only pulling 80k. What a flop


And GT6 which has an even larger user base to sell to is doing even worse, way to miss that.


Gt6 preorders mite be worse But its gonna sell a ton more copies


You're right it could, but saying that just adds ammo to the "preorder numbers don't matter" camp.
#113JWJW99Posted 10/19/2013 10:15:06 AM
assassin10133 posted...
stevieb1234567 posted...
assassin10133 posted...
JWJW99 posted...
Ellesarien posted...
PS4 - Dudebros console confirmed :)


Lawl @ Forza only pulling 80k. What a flop


And GT6 which has an even larger user base to sell to is doing even worse, way to miss that.


Gt6 preorders mite be worse But its gonna sell a ton more copies


You're right it could, but saying that just adds ammo to the "preorder numbers don't matter" camp.


Yeah let's compare Forza 5 on One agaisnt a game coming out on a system that's 8 years old...because that makes sense.

Trolls just pulling stuff out of the bucket now.
#114zephirrainesPosted 10/19/2013 10:22:41 AM
So wait now we cant compare this gen to last gen even though ponies always bring up that titanfall is on 360 . Also they claim the ps4 will get games just because the ps3 did. Fact that forza has more preorders with a currently non existent install base means nothing however becsuse preorders dont matter!

Look at the vita. Sonys last system you ponies claimed would be great even with no games.
#115lilj812(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 10:30:16 AM
zephirraines posted...
So wait now we cant compare this gen to last gen even though ponies always bring up that titanfall is on 360 . Also they claim the ps4 will get games just because the ps3 did. Fact that forza has more preorders with a currently non existent install base means nothing however becsuse preorders dont matter!

Look at the vita. Sonys last system you ponies claimed would be great even with no games.


Stopped reading there, those don't relate. You have issues with correlation it seems.

Also, don't list the viewpoint of the person or people you are debating, that's called the straw man. Let "the ponies" say what they mean, then you counter that. Don't say what you think "the ponies" mean or are saying and then attack that, it shows you have no form for debate.
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#116assassin10133Posted 10/19/2013 10:52:31 AM
JWJW99 posted...
Yeah let's compare Forza 5 on One agaisnt a game coming out on a system that's 8 years old...because that makes sense.

Trolls just pulling stuff out of the bucket now.


First off, I've seen F5 compared to GT6 more than once on these boards, most of the time with people trying to say GT6 looks the same/better. Second, it's comparing a game coming out on a console with a 77 million person user base vs a console that isn't even released yet and has less than 2 million pre-orders, if anything that should give a huge advantage to GT6 which makes the fact that it's behind F5 even worse. Fact is it's comparing the latest releases for both respective series so yes it does make sense and the only thing you can say to it is that I'm a troll, nice. At least the other guy made a point and said GT6 could still outsell F5 which i'd hope it would given the difference in size of the user base.
#117DesperateMonkeyPosted 10/19/2013 11:06:44 AM
lilj812 posted...
zephirraines posted...
So wait now we cant compare this gen to last gen even though ponies always bring up that titanfall is on 360 . Also they claim the ps4 will get games just because the ps3 did. Fact that forza has more preorders with a currently non existent install base means nothing however becsuse preorders dont matter!

Look at the vita. Sonys last system you ponies claimed would be great even with no games.


Stopped reading there, those don't relate. You have issues with correlation it seems.

Also, don't list the viewpoint of the person or people you are debating, that's called the straw man. Let "the ponies" say what they mean, then you counter that. Don't say what you think "the ponies" mean or are saying and then attack that, it shows you have no form for debate.


Its not a straw man at all. There was no logic in the original argument, but when parallels are drawn, Sony ponies like yourself will counter with arbitrary requirements. Comparing pre-orders to prior consoles doesn't make sense in what way? If we analyze it in depth, we quickly realize that same console gen pre-orders say pretty much the same thing. In fact, what we realize is that pre-orders often mean very very little.
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#118lilj812(Topic Creator)Posted 10/19/2013 11:09:03 AM
DesperateMonkey posted...
lilj812 posted...
zephirraines posted...
So wait now we cant compare this gen to last gen even though ponies always bring up that titanfall is on 360 . Also they claim the ps4 will get games just because the ps3 did. Fact that forza has more preorders with a currently non existent install base means nothing however becsuse preorders dont matter!

Look at the vita. Sonys last system you ponies claimed would be great even with no games.


Stopped reading there, those don't relate. You have issues with correlation it seems.

Also, don't list the viewpoint of the person or people you are debating, that's called the straw man. Let "the ponies" say what they mean, then you counter that. Don't say what you think "the ponies" mean or are saying and then attack that, it shows you have no form for debate.


Its not a straw man at all. There was no logic in the original argument, but when parallels are drawn, Sony ponies like yourself will counter with arbitrary requirements. Comparing pre-orders to prior consoles doesn't make sense in what way? If we analyze it in depth, we quickly realize that same console gen pre-orders say pretty much the same thing. In fact, what we realize is that pre-orders often mean very very little.


Stopped reading there, I'm a PC gamer.

"Also, don't list the viewpoint of the person or people you are debating, that's called the straw man." That's literally in the quote above yours. Show some intelligence please. Pretty please?
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#119DesperateMonkeyPosted 10/19/2013 11:15:26 AM
Considering you can't read past the first sentence, it would be hard for you to argue anything regarding intelligence...
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#120LaManoNeraIIPosted 10/19/2013 12:38:14 PM
Pre-orders don't matter and never have

Come back with actual sales figures
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