Are installs still mandatory?

#11crynryanPosted 10/26/2013 4:57:23 AM
When you download a system update, you're downloading the whole firmware. You don't just download the new changes. If the OS was 65GB, that'd be a 65GB+ download every single time there's a new update.

The latest PS3 update was 168MB. The latest X360 update was 108MB. To even think that the next consoles' OS will take anywhere over a couple hundred megabytes is insane.
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#12Rdeal2Posted 10/26/2013 5:13:51 AM
I thought the Xbox One had 8gig of flash for the OS,am i wrong?
#13Rdeal2Posted 10/26/2013 5:25:15 AM
Foppe posted...
Eoin posted...
Foppe posted...
And then the OS is supposed to be big. Let's say that it's 65 GB.


That's just a nonsensical size and you are surely aware of that. That's several times the amount of space needed by Windows 8.


The only official we have got is Xbox One system software uses a significant amount of storage; less internal storage will be available to users., which you can read at http://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/innovation
I think that 65GB is a good guess. I would be happy if it used less.


Why would you think the OS would take 65GB?pc takes no where near that and it's bloated with all sorts of crap.
The XB1 has 8GB of flash memory i am sure that will be used for the os,when they state software they mean stuff like skype/browser and other apps
#14_Elite_Bushido_Posted 10/26/2013 5:56:53 AM
can you play while installing the game or is that only when downloading?
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#15LaManoNeraIIPosted 10/26/2013 11:25:59 AM
Neither console will let you install games to external hard drives.

I think I'm just gonna get a new PC and buy an Xbone controller, do HDMI from my graphics card to the T.V and pretend I'm on a real next-gen console.. I don't really like the direction (if there is one) consoles are going. They're "innovating" in the wrong ways.
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#16AlexanaxelaPosted 10/26/2013 11:27:05 AM
we'll probably be done with the campaign for most games before the entire game is downloaded
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#17sworderPosted 10/26/2013 11:29:25 AM
Foppe posted...
You wont even get 500 GB with a 500 GB harddrive.
When it's formated, you will get something like 465 GB.


It's not because of formating...

It's because that's the actual capacity of the HDD and manufacturers just advertise it wrong
#18_Elite_Bushido_Posted 10/27/2013 2:13:09 PM
sworder posted...
Foppe posted...
You wont even get 500 GB with a 500 GB harddrive.
When it's formated, you will get something like 465 GB.


It's not because of formating...

It's because that's the actual capacity of the HDD and manufacturers just advertise it wrong


No, it's because of the o/s installation
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#19bob15xPosted 10/27/2013 2:57:11 PM
Storrac posted...
Spetsnaz420 posted...
SnoicFactor posted...
Isnt ps4 optional atm?


IIRC they both will require them...however you can upgrade the internal HDD for the PS4 and both systems will support external HDDs...but it isn't clear if we can install games on those for either console I'm afraid.


Didn't they confirm that external harddrives were not supported on the PS4?


no support on ps4 for external drives to install games too
#20crynryanPosted 10/28/2013 2:56:14 AM(edited)
_Elite_Bushido_ posted...
sworder posted...
Foppe posted...
You wont even get 500 GB with a 500 GB harddrive.
When it's formated, you will get something like 465 GB.


It's not because of formating...

It's because that's the actual capacity of the HDD and manufacturers just advertise it wrong


No, it's because of the o/s installation


Hard drive manufacturers use 1000 MB as a GB. OS's use 1024 MB as a GB. So if a hard drive is labelled as "500 GB", that's a literal 500,000 MB. When you divide that by 1024, you'll get 488.28, which is what the OS will see as the max storage.

Now, subtract the size of the OS to 488.8 GB, and you'll have how much data you'll be allowed to store on your hard drive.
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