Xbox Generates $2 billion in Losses for MS. Hides it with Patent Royalties

#11Kosmo240985Posted 11/8/2013 9:25:36 AM
ILikesCheese posted...
For those on this board who are not in the finance industry and don't understand this topic, read this link from a business report last summer:

http://www.geekwire.com/2013/microsofts-revamped-financials-reveal-road/

It further details how Microsoft has gone to great lengths recently to "hide" the PL (profit loss) of several of its divisions.


You do realize that this segment reorganization is needed right? it's not hiding anything, it's organizing the company financials to represent the new structure of the company more accuratly.

they need to do this per sec regulations. If a company does not structure their financials to represent their current structure they can be faced with a negative opinion by auditors.

this guy talking doesn't even know what the numbers mean ffs...

With the recent expansion of windows phone, surface and the new x1 they need to restructure.

the company still has over 50 billion in cash. they will be fine.
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#12CyborgTwentyPosted 11/8/2013 11:12:51 AM
HENTAIDOJI posted...
Of course it does. Apple loses billions on iphones amd ipads. They make the majority of their cash each quarter on the sales of actual apples.


I remember when trolls were actually funny.
#13ILikesCheesePosted 11/8/2013 2:16:00 PM
Kosmo240985 posted...
...You do realize that this segment reorganization is needed right? it's not hiding anything, it's organizing the company financials to represent the new structure of the company more accuratly....


Someone OBVIOUSLY did not read the articles.

Or can spell either.
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#14IloveslimesOMGPosted 11/8/2013 2:18:58 PM
Xbox has never been profitable, MS better get rid of that dead horse.
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#15SoulTrapperPosted 11/8/2013 2:23:49 PM
This would further explain why so many higher ups are calling for MS to ditch the xbox division.

Everyone knew it didn't generate an overall profit yet since it's launch, this only makes it worse.
#16LICKWIDPAlNPosted 11/8/2013 2:27:33 PM
So basically they were hiding the loses all this time while putting up a front that the Xbox division was successful.

Hmm... The plot thickens.
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#17zephirrainesPosted 11/8/2013 3:02:37 PM
LICKWIDPAlN posted...
So basically they were hiding the loses all this time while putting up a front that the Xbox division was successful.

Hmm... The plot thickens.


Lets take some time to think for once ponies. Xbox 360 has sold at a profit longer than ps3. Xbox sells more software. Xbox has generated revenue from live for years.

What you econ failures are ignoring is that eery company looks bad when you look at only the costs and not the revenue. If the xbox is failing then the playstation is in even worse shape.
#18CyborgTwentyPosted 11/10/2013 1:11:32 PM
zephirraines posted...
LICKWIDPAlN posted...
So basically they were hiding the loses all this time while putting up a front that the Xbox division was successful.

Hmm... The plot thickens.


Lets take some time to think for once ponies. Xbox 360 has sold at a profit longer than ps3. Xbox sells more software. Xbox has generated revenue from live for years.

What you econ failures are ignoring is that eery company looks bad when you look at only the costs and not the revenue. If the xbox is failing then the playstation is in even worse shape.


Dat denial.
#19EvilScythePosted 11/10/2013 5:30:51 PM
Dat truth...
#20ssjgohhkuPosted 11/11/2013 8:14:49 AM
EvilScythe posted...
Dat truth...


$2 billion is pretty hard to accept for hardcore Xbox fanboys even if it's true.