Can the Kinect spy on you?

#11SunDevil77Posted 11/11/2013 10:13:25 PM
You created an alt for this crap?
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#12Sanguine_01Posted 11/11/2013 10:14:44 PM
The truth is that there is a possibility it can spy on you if you and anyone else in your household does not take the correct precautions when using it often. Unlike our phones and computers which do not mandate anything onto us the Kinect does which can be frustrating.

Spying is a big issue with Microsoft mainly because they were one of the companies giving away personal information away to the US government. It does not make me feel secure with them knowing this and makes me wonder what else they are capable of.

Consider what is best for you and your family before buying any console in the future since some people just don't care about these things they may try to convince you otherwise.
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#13jairusmonillasPosted 11/11/2013 10:25:55 PM(edited)
If they can spy on your iPhone and Android and even Facebook, you don't need to wonder if Kinect can spy on you. If anything it's probably the best surveillance camera ever made to spy on every gamer's houses.

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#14SparkItUpPosted 11/11/2013 11:18:03 PM
BoxTheMuppet posted...
It spies on you as much as anything else does these days.


^ this. Anything that has an active camera you have to feel that someone else is able to collect that data. Best thing to do is look at a companies track record as far as sharing personal information both with & without your permission and make an informed decision.
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#15ElJorge007Posted 11/11/2013 11:29:53 PM
Agreed, this fear-mongering is getting insane. Microsoft, along with Apple, Google and a just about every other tech company has to comply to the same laws involving the sending of data via court order. A kinect is just as intruding as an iPhone, Droid, PC or Mac. In fact, MS and all them are jointly lobbying for pro-privacy bills. A home monitoring Kinect would be very simple to track on your network and MS would get caught day 1 of implementation. Coupled with the fact that you can disable it, anyone who tries to manipulate your decision with fear is just a fanboy.
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#16SparkItUpPosted 11/11/2013 11:43:17 PM
ElJorge007 posted...
Agreed, this fear-mongering is getting insane. Microsoft, along with Apple, Google and a just about every other tech company has to comply to the same laws involving the sending of data via court order. A kinect is just as intruding as an iPhone, Droid, PC or Mac. In fact, MS and all them are jointly lobbying for pro-privacy bills. A home monitoring Kinect would be very simple to track on your network and MS would get caught day 1 of implementation. Coupled with the fact that you can disable it, anyone who tries to manipulate your decision with fear is just a fanboy.


I think the problem many have are that these companies are doing it voluntarily. Generally in the past, telecom companies always required a warrant to get information on their customers...Now these companies are just handing the information over at will and there really is no oversight on what happens to the information.
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#17ElJorge007Posted 11/12/2013 12:32:19 AM
SparkItUp posted...
ElJorge007 posted...
Agreed, this fear-mongering is getting insane. Microsoft, along with Apple, Google and a just about every other tech company has to comply to the same laws involving the sending of data via court order. A kinect is just as intruding as an iPhone, Droid, PC or Mac. In fact, MS and all them are jointly lobbying for pro-privacy bills. A home monitoring Kinect would be very simple to track on your network and MS would get caught day 1 of implementation. Coupled with the fact that you can disable it, anyone who tries to manipulate your decision with fear is just a fanboy.


I think the problem many have are that these companies are doing it voluntarily. Generally in the past, telecom companies always required a warrant to get information on their customers...Now these companies are just handing the information over at will and there really is no oversight on what happens to the information.


Laws that bypass the warrants are at fault, not the companies. Not one of those companies could deny the requests and not break the law. People keep making it look like MS was more buddy-buddy with NSA than other companies, which is a flat out stupid presumption. More info on what the companies are doing in response: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5053438/apple-microsoft-google-and-others-urge-congress-to-enact-nsa-reforms
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#18GotTruthPosted 11/12/2013 12:57:07 AM
ElJorge007 posted...
SparkItUp posted...
ElJorge007 posted...
Agreed, this fear-mongering is getting insane. Microsoft, along with Apple, Google and a just about every other tech company has to comply to the same laws involving the sending of data via court order. A kinect is just as intruding as an iPhone, Droid, PC or Mac. In fact, MS and all them are jointly lobbying for pro-privacy bills. A home monitoring Kinect would be very simple to track on your network and MS would get caught day 1 of implementation. Coupled with the fact that you can disable it, anyone who tries to manipulate your decision with fear is just a fanboy.


I think the problem many have are that these companies are doing it voluntarily. Generally in the past, telecom companies always required a warrant to get information on their customers...Now these companies are just handing the information over at will and there really is no oversight on what happens to the information.


Laws that bypass the warrants are at fault, not the companies. Not one of those companies could deny the requests and not break the law. People keep making it look like MS was more buddy-buddy with NSA than other companies, which is a flat out stupid presumption. More info on what the companies are doing in response: http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/31/5053438/apple-microsoft-google-and-others-urge-congress-to-enact-nsa-reforms


The companies BECOME the problem or at least COMLICATE in it when they REFUSE to get into the Legal Muck and FORCE the Government into OPEN court with there REFUSAL to comply. You think these companies together with ALL that money and power can't make go at a BULLS**T government intrusion? MS is INDEED "buddy-buddy" with NSA and their ilk in this. You OBVIOUSLY didn't bother to educate yourself on the search terms I provided, maybe THIS will be clear enough for even YOU..........

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html
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#19GotTruthPosted 11/12/2013 1:00:24 AM
How NSA access was built into Windows

Duncan Campbell 04.09.1999

Careless mistake reveals subversion of Windows by NSA.

A CARELESS mistake by Microsoft programmers has revealed that special access codes prepared by the US National Security Agency have been secretly built into Windows. The NSA access system is built into every version of the Windows operating system now in use, except early releases of Windows 95 (and its predecessors). The discovery comes close on the heels of the revelations earlier this year that another US software giant, Lotus, had built an NSA "help information" trapdoor into its Notes system, and that security functions on other software systems had been deliberately crippled.

The first discovery of the new NSA access system was made two years ago by British researcher Dr Nicko van Someren. But it was only a few weeks ago when a second researcher rediscovered the access system. With it, he found the evidence linking it to NSA.

Computer security specialists have been aware for two years that unusual features are contained inside a standard Windows software "driver" used for security and encryption functions. The driver, called ADVAPI.DLL, enables and controls a range of security functions. If you use Windows, you will find it in the C:\Windows\system directory of your computer.

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#20GotTruthPosted 11/12/2013 1:01:25 AM
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ADVAPI.DLL works closely with Microsoft Internet Explorer, but will only run cryptographic functions that the US governments allows Microsoft to export. That information is bad enough news, from a European point of view. Now, it turns out that ADVAPI will run special programmes inserted and controlled by NSA. As yet, no-one knows what these programmes are, or what they do.

Dr Nicko van Someren reported at last year's Crypto 98 conference that he had disassembled the ADVADPI driver. He found it contained two different keys. One was used by Microsoft to control the cryptographic functions enabled in Windows, in compliance with US export regulations. But the reason for building in a second key, or who owned it, remained a mystery.

A second key

Two weeks ago, a US security company came up with conclusive evidence that the second key belongs to NSA. Like Dr van Someren, Andrew Fernandez, chief scientist with Cryptonym of Morrisville, North Carolina, had been probing the presence and significance of the two keys. Then he checked the latest Service Pack release for Windows NT4, Service Pack 5. He found that Microsoft's developers had failed to remove or "strip" the debugging symbols used to test this software before they released it. Inside the code were the labels for the two keys. One was called "KEY". The other was called "NSAKEY".

Fernandes reported his re-discovery of the two CAPI keys, and their secret meaning, to "Advances in Cryptology, Crypto'99" conference held in Santa Barbara. According to those present at the conference, Windows developers attending the conference did not deny that the "NSA" key was built into their software. But they refused to talk about what the key did, or why it had been put there without users' knowledge.

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