Why can the Xbox One not do "Steam like" sales without DRM?
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3 years ago#31
sale allot of times. Xb1 just came out sales will come. Somes times it may not be as good as steam sales sense steam is diffrent any way but ms still has good console sales for a good price some even beating steam. Do you have a xbox360 cause serously if you did you would already know this.
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3 years ago#32
Aarkshark posted...WeirdShroom posted...Every one of those used games is a sale taken from the hardworking people that made it -
I use Steam Family Sharing with friends and play all their games for free. I am stealing from the developers too, mwuahahahahaha!
Also, I sold my car to a friend. That is money that Ford should have gotten, right?
3 years ago#33
Steam sells the games so cheap because people would just torrent them anyways.
This is why I'm never going to get a ps4
3 years ago#34
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3 years ago#35
Master Alien posted...
SirLemont posted...Master Alien posted...There is no reason to believe that Microsoft and Sony won't have Steam-like sales down the road when digital distribution is as prolific on consoles as it is today on PCs. The thing that makes Steam-sales work is the amount of people who use Steam. Until Microsoft and Sony can expect the loss of revenue from dropping prices to be vastly outmatched by the increase in sales it wont happen. Thats the secret behind Steam sales, it has nothing to do with drm blah blah blah its simple volume vs price.
Oh I'm sorry...is THAT what you call "business"?
Allow me to explain. The reason Steam is so successful is because not only are they competing in an open PC market against other digital distributors, but they're also competing against torrent sites. They offer a service that's superior than just pirating it. THAT'S the key to their success.
Microsoft, on the other hand, doesn't have that scenario. Their market is closed. They are the ONLY distributor on their market. With that advantage, what incentive do they have to offer anything Steam-like? Absolutely none. What theu really tried to do was gain the benefits of the digital market (no used sales) without the incentives that garner consumer interest. That's not a win-win, it's a "have my cake and eat it too" thing.
3 years ago#36
Should have made a game worth keeping then.
Used games only exist if a NEW copy was already bought. If there is a saturation of used games, it must mean there was either not enough of a demand of the game in the first place (that people can wait for a used copy to become available instead of buying NEW) or that the game was ******/easy/short/no replay which made gamers return the product in mass (thus allowing others to buy Used in large amounts).
Most PS1/PS2 and Nintendo products are what developers should strive for. Most people still have their copies of Zelda OoT/MM, Mario, Final Fantasy, etc. because it's worth keeping thus having less supply available in the used game market.
What you see today is ****** games and remakes such as CoD, Asscreed, and Madden that, once the new version comes out, the old one is obsolete. Especially true with the former since the only thing worth playing on CoD is multiplayer and when the next iteration is out, everyone jumps ship = millions of copies selling for 5$ used.
And Used Games Practices are still better than piracy since, as stated above, a New copy had to have been bought to become Used (thus a sale) and only ONE person can have a copy at a time (if there are only 1 used copy of a wanted game with 2 people who want it, logic dictates one has to buy New or wait for that used copy to return (if ever) to the shelf) x the entire continental U.S.
While piracy has one person buying a game (if not used/renting) and giving it away to millions for free.
3 years ago#37
I need to ask but doesn't Steam have DRM anyway (you can play Games from Steam offline for two weeks otherwise it gives you an error message "log in credentials expired").
There isn't supposed to be a time limit on offline mode.
But yes, Steam is DRM. It's just streamlined enough and has enough incentives to accept it's presence.
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3 years ago#38
rockman11_z posted...I need to ask but doesn't Steam have DRM anyway (you can play Games from Steam offline for two weeks otherwise it gives you an error message "log in credentials expired").
I love steam, but Offline mode has never worked a single time for me.
3 years ago#39
Steam isn't DRM, Steamworks is DRM.
A lot of games in your Steam library you can play without launching the client.
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3 years ago#40
I seriously doubt MS would've ever had Steam like deals on games. This is the same company who tried to strip away consumer's rights with their horrible DRM policies. Them looking out for gamers with great online store deals is funny.
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