X1 399 version that eliminates konect?

#41FearPotionPosted 12/3/2013 1:45:40 PM
The stupid Kinect shouldn't even be included from the beginning. All it does is jack up the price of the system.

It should have been optional and now they are paying the price. 500 bucks will not sell to the average consumer. Sony learn this and MS forgot about it.

Since Kinect is so connected with the UI I have a hard time believing they'll remove it now.
#42streamjumperPosted 12/3/2013 1:58:20 PM
FearPotion posted...
The stupid Kinect shouldn't even be included from the beginning. All it does is jack up the price of the system.

It should have been optional and now they are paying the price. 500 bucks will not sell to the average consumer. Sony learn this and MS forgot about it.

Since Kinect is so connected with the UI I have a hard time believing they'll remove it now.

$500 bucks for a video game machine when there's a $400 dollar machine on the market? Of course not. But what about that $400 machine when there's a $350 dollar machine or several $150-200 machines? Launch and holiday sales are one thing, but the price point gets strange outside of those as long as there's last gen's machines to be had.

However, why buy a $400 machine that mainly games when you can get a $500 machine that the whole family can use to game, add functionality to watching TV, plays dance/exercise games for the casuals in the house (or family wanting to push their gamer to lose a few pounds/lose weight themselves), adds functionality to NFL and ESPN programming for dad, and gives the family a better option for Skyping loved ones than crowding around a tiny laptop?

Bang for buck can and does trump a $100 price difference. Especially when dealing with people who don't care as much for the power difference (tell them the PS4 is 50% more powerful and then show them both on a tv screen... prepare for the laughs from people who don't count pixels or break out the magnifying glass to look for jaggies) as they do for a package of features literally dropped right into their lap.
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#43KolanifvPosted 12/3/2013 3:35:14 PM
streamjumper posted...
Launch and holiday sales are one thing, but the price point gets strange outside of those as long as there's last gen's machines to be had.


Last gen consoles still on the market and getting AAA releases were a HUGE part of the PS3's slow start, and one of the things Microsoft did best last time at the 360 launch: you couldn't find an original XBox or games at major retail for a while before the 360 launch, so everyone was focused on 360. Nintendo does it really well too. However, some of the best PS2 games were still coming out after PS3 launch.

I'm afraid both Sony and Microsoft are going to botch this gen up keeping the 360 and PS3 supported long term, getting the same games to the point that there's no reason to get a XB1 or PS4 unless you want the extra bells and whistles.