Oh, Look, Something New To Complain About...Console Trade-In Bonuses

#21TenzhiPosted 2/1/2014 5:24:05 AM
aszsith posted...

When something you want is in the box it is viewed as an included offering. For example, I don't see anyone complaining that the included headset was "forced" and that is far from a necessary component of the system. Kinect serves the same purpose for me, so the headset is useless to me. It's still in my Day One box I think.


The user interface wasn't designed to favour the headset in a misguided attempt to make the headset integral. The headset will have a minimal impact at best on current and future gameplay design - developers are unlikely to arbitrarily penalise using the controller in order to make the headset more appealing, for instance. In short, the headset is far less of an imposition upon gamers and gaming than the Kinect. And that's completely without regard to cost or what the competition is doing.

I, for one, would be happy to see them release a Kinect-less XBOne even if it comes after I've already bought the system. Because then developers would have to think twice before making Kinect-based features an integral part of their games and the infernal device can be shoved back into its niche.
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#22GeistPosted 2/1/2014 5:30:02 AM
Any one here left complaining is a troll and a waste of time TC, just ignore them. No amount of evidence or logic will ever get them to stop.
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#23Duke_of_NukePosted 2/1/2014 5:46:16 AM
aszsith posted...

Now Microsoft offers $100 for last gen console trades which essentially negates the price difference and people complain about that too.


It doesn't negate anything. The PS4 is $400 dollars no matter what whereas the Xbone is only $400 if you give up your PS3 which IMO is worth more than the Xbone.

Soooo basically this "deal" they're offering is a bigger ripoff then just buying the thing flat out.
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#24MashYouGoodPosted 2/1/2014 6:00:40 AM
aszsith posted...
complaint levied

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#25nableetPosted 2/1/2014 6:14:39 AM
aszsith posted...
Millertime660 posted...
RyuuHou25 posted...

Where did you see me complaining? It's a fact. If I was complaining, I would say something along the lines of "It sucks, this is horrible, I hate it, blah blah blah"

Christ people.


It is absolutely not a fact.... it is your opinion. No one really seems to get the difference around here.


When something you want is in the box it is viewed as an included offering. For example, I don't see anyone complaining that the included headset was "forced" and that is far from a necessary component of the system. Kinect serves the same purpose for me, so the headset is useless to me. It's still in my Day One box I think.

However, when something is in the box that you don't desire, all of a sudden it's been "forced" on you, like Kinect. I didn't need or want the crappy batteries that came in the box. I don't think they were forced on me though. But I assume that no one would value those batteries to be a significant portion of the purchase price, which Kinect clearly is.

Like it or not, Kinect is currently part of the XBOne purchase. It isn't FORCED. It is INCLUDED. If the console came as is but cost $100 less, I suspect Kinect's inclusion would be a non issue like the headset is. People who don't want to use it would just never pull it out the box.

If the PS4 came with it's camera and cost $500 I wonder if this would still be such an issue? I suspect not.

Kudos to Sony for creating the one of the most controversial topics in gaming in the past decade with an 11th hour PR move. They couldn't have possibly predicted the crap-storm they would cause, but I'm certain they are enjoying it.

Personally, I don't care if they make a Kinect-less model or not. It won't change my enjoyment of the system or not.


You are definitely 100% wrong on the bolded part.
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#26BeefEasterPosted 2/1/2014 7:13:14 AM
the ps4 camera costs $60

where they hell are you getting a $500 price tag from?
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#27aszsith(Topic Creator)Posted 2/1/2014 9:39:38 AM
MashYouGood posted...
aszsith posted...
complaint levied

levelled


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/levelled - wrong word for this usage
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/levied - correct word for this usage
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#28MashYouGoodPosted 2/2/2014 5:40:06 PM
aszsith posted...
MashYouGood posted...
aszsith posted...
complaint levied

levelled


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/levelled - wrong word for this usage
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/levied - correct word for this usage

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/level+a+charge+against