So, when microsoft looks at a poll like the one on gamefaqs today.....

#151therickmu25Posted 2/11/2014 6:31:28 PM
MS is in the middle of getting a new CEO which means new Presidents, Senior VPS, VPs, Directors , managers. Basically everything getting blown up and realigned. There's nobody in thst company that gives a rats a** about this poll I assure you of that since everyone is probably worried about their jobs.
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#152lovbbwsPosted 2/11/2014 6:32:16 PM
DarkReign2022 posted...
I fail to see how the XB1 is even considered as "losing." Financially, I see a very different story and seeing as how these are both businesses about making money, everything else ceases to matter.

(Retail cost - hardware cost) x Units Sold = Profit made

Based on the most recent sales posted in December, Xbox One has sold 3 million and PS4 has sold 4.2. Hardware breakdown has shown the Xbox to cost $471, including console, controller, and Kinect while the PS4 costs $381, including console and controller.

Xbox One:
$500 - $471 = $29 per console sold
$29 x 3m = $87,000,000

PS4:
$400 - $381 = $19 per console sold
$29 x 4.2m = $79,800,000

Even with a 1.2 million console disadvantage, the Xbox has still turned $8.2 million more in sales profit than the PS4 console.

Needless to say, however, neither console has turned an actual profit yet as both have barely scratched the surface. Compared to the 80 million both PS3 and 360 have sold, current gen sales are a meager fraction of what we can expect in the future.To offset that, both companies still have to make up for expenses in Marketing, Research & Development, PR management. Additionally there's no way to track profit made from the sales of games and accessories, so while Microsoft is winning the surface race, we have no way of knowning how far along either company is toward turning an actual profit.


lol people doin all these figures for money they never get or see i dont get it i miss the days of just playin games and not caring what the cost and payroll was sigh
#153Enigma149Posted 2/11/2014 6:32:59 PM
DarkReign2022 posted...
I fail to see how the XB1 is even considered as "losing." Financially, I see a very different story and seeing as how these are both businesses about making money, everything else ceases to matter.

(Retail cost - hardware cost) x Units Sold = Profit made

Based on the most recent sales posted in December, Xbox One has sold 3 million and PS4 has sold 4.2. Hardware breakdown has shown the Xbox to cost $471, including console, controller, and Kinect while the PS4 costs $381, including console and controller.

Xbox One:
$500 - $471 = $29 per console sold
$29 x 3m = $87,000,000

PS4:
$400 - $381 = $19 per console sold
$29 x 4.2m = $79,800,000

Even with a 1.2 million console disadvantage, the Xbox has still turned $8.2 million more in sales profit than the PS4 console.

Needless to say, however, neither console has turned an actual profit yet as both have barely scratched the surface. Compared to the 80 million both PS3 and 360 have sold, current gen sales are a meager fraction of what we can expect in the future.To offset that, both companies still have to make up for expenses in Marketing, Research & Development, PR management. Additionally there's no way to track profit made from the sales of games and accessories, so while Microsoft is winning the surface race, we have no way of knowning how far along either company is toward turning an actual profit.


You also have to remember that they sell to the stores at a considerably lower price than the MSRP. Nintendo, for example, sold the Wii at $195 to stores, while it retailed for $250.
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#154singhellotakuPosted 2/11/2014 6:33:58 PM
axelfooley2k5 posted...
dont make a conspiracy theory about trolls paid by sony or whatever.

huge amounts of the people who took part in that poll bought a 360


exactly, over the years I bought FOUR 360's, all of which are still fully functional, though I gave two away to friends, and nearly 200 games (check my collection, I own every game on there and about 40 more since I last updated) in comparison to about 20 ps3 games and a single ps3. M$ lost me as a customer, I have no love for sony, but given the wii u isn't a legitimate choice I had to take the approach.
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#155thedarklordx3Posted 2/12/2014 7:52:05 AM
RS_YELARAKA posted...
Let's use our brains. Over 3.5 million XB1s sold..... How many people on gamefaqs? And how many people casted a vote?

brilliant topic TC


there's like 100,000 gamefaqs users but they don't all vote/post(I've seen votes get to like 77k)

gamefaqs is a pretty massive sample size.
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#156axelfooley2k5(Topic Creator)Posted 2/12/2014 7:59:48 AM
Yes, and more than one 3.88% 1,214
Yes, a PlayStation 4..... 28.64% 8,967
Yes, a Wii U.................. 9.07% 2,841
Yes, an Xbox One......... 5.87% 1,838
No, I won't..................... 49.36% 15,454
No, because I already own 3.18% 995


whatever.........there is a lot of room for improvement.
its not like the no votes were HELL NO i hate microsoft votes


i still think that it is a good indicator of how people feel
this negativity is not only found on gamefaqs
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#157thedarklordx3Posted 2/13/2014 11:10:07 AM
Enigma149 posted...
Just a follow up:

If GameFAQs polls were really a valid representation of the gaming industry as a whole, then we've got a serious problem - namely, that we're in the middle of a steep, steep decline.

Here's a poll from July 2008:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3193

Notice how the total number of people who voted is over 120,000. Here's another one from March 2009 that shows similar results:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3436

Yet if we skip ahead to September 2009, the total's dropped to 100,000, though it rises back to 106,000 in April 2010:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3597
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3873

Here's one from March 2011, showing only 80,000:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4290

By October, it was 65,000:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4499

By July 2012, under 50,000:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4731

Yesterday, it dropped below 36,000:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5413

Interestingly enough, these also show another trend - Sony and Nintendo fans seem to have stuck around the website, while Microsoft fans left - just look at the numbers. The PS3 was well behind the 360 in the first few polls, yet by the last poll it was in had a lead by several percentage points...despite the total number of PS3s dropping by 8,500!

Of course, this isn't good news for MS - they're losing customers faster than anyone else...but if these polls are to be believed, then the end of gaming is upon us.

Repent!

For those of you wondering how I got these polls, they could be quickly viewed from yesterday's poll page - I'm far too lazy to go through each poll of the day for the past half decade and find them.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the fall of gamefaqs
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#158thedarklordx3Posted 2/13/2014 11:13:11 AM
Mecamatt posted...
The GameFAQS community in no way represents the average gaming population, if it did Call of Duty, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends would have the most popular boards, and instead Pokemon X does. Different audiences use different forms of communications, the Nintendo use gameFAQS a lot because I suppose psychologically whatever draws fans into Nintendo systems also draws them to talk about it online, which is why Miiverse is so popular to I suppose.

I'm really just making assumptions here, but yeah, this website is pretty much the territory of Sony and Nintendo fans, anyone who likes Xbox practically got booted off the website after Microsoft announced the DRM, and even before that, most Microsoft peeps just communicate through different media like Facebook, or hell, Xbox Live.


COD, WoW and LoL DO have very popular boards, pokemon is an extremely popular and mainstream game(I know atleast a dozen people with x or y and im pretty sure they sold like 10 million copies)

and WoW has been in a steep decline in playerbase and popularity since like... cataclysm, COD is in a bit of a decline with ghosts.
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I'm back to LoL for now (I also like maplestory and cabal online)
my internet is garbage again, but I'll try to manage and get my MMO fix.