MS and Sony have same amount of First Party studios!

#21CrysianiaPosted 2/22/2014 9:17:21 AM(edited)
Jiggy101011 posted...
FadingLights posted...
The problem is, the Sony studios are god-tier and put out world class AAA exclusives. The MS studios are mostly only capable of Kinect stuff and not-so great games. They need to step their game up.


How do you explain why Xbox exclusives sell more than Playstation exclusives?


I hate this argument.

Some games are not appealing to large markets, does that make them bad games?

No.

Fps games for instance typically have a larger market size than say rpg games.

What I like about sony is they try out in a lot of different genre's.


You could also argue that less exclusives = more sales for individual titles whereas more exclusives = less sales for individual titles.
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#22BSerenityPosted 2/22/2014 9:18:13 AM
amarayaar007 posted...
HENTAIDOJI posted...
Halo 2 on XB sold about 8.5 million units while the first halo sold 6.5. GT3 on PS2 sold 15 million, and GT4 sold over 11.5 million. there really was no competition that gen, let's not be delusional or liars...

And how they doing now? We know Halo 4 is the best selling Halo ever, but how did GT6 do? Not well is the answer.

And yes all the Halos on 360 sold a lot, but I was going on franchise basis here, because mostly the same people buy every game in that franchise it's not like Halo 4 brought in a new crowd to 360 than what Halo 3 did.,/I>

Actually it was. In the month of November 2012 Xbox 360 sales increased dramatically over the previous month.

<>Gears games sold around 6 million units each as did Uncharted games, so that's a blatant lie or a misconception that people have because they don't know the sales numbers.


I wanna see the receipts. For one it's 22 million Gears *sold* over 4 games

http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/636667-gears-of-war-series-surpasses-22-million-units-sold

vs 17 million Uncharted games *shipped* over 5 games.

Kinect Adventures was a pack in with pretty much every Kinect, that's like saying Wii sports is the biggest seller, cause the fact is people didn't go out and spend $60 on those games they just got them with a piece of hardware.

But Kinect was still optional. Maybe you wanna say Guitar Hero sold zero copies too.

P.S. it's funny you should mention the lack of system sellers, when Sony has sold more home consoles since it got in the business that both Nintendo and MS have combined, when according to popular belief those two have a lot of system sellers that sony lacks.

Sony used to have system sellers call GTA, MGS, Final Fantasy until they were stolen away.

Immediately after this happened, Sonys next console was outsold by both competitors. Sony promised to make games to make up for this, but lets face it

Infamous never sold 30 million units in 1 month
Killzone never did 20 million every holiday
Demons Souls never matched Final Fantast


That's a lot of spin on numbers.lol
Are we talking about total sales of a franchise? How much they sells on average? how much the highest selling game in the franchise has sold? you seem to change the goalpost for each franchise as it suits your needs.

And even without GTA and FF exclusivity PS3 outsold 360 despite having one less year on the market and being $100-200 more expensive, and PS4 is destroying the XB1 atm.


There is no need to replay to him. He will always spin, lie, and move goalposts.
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#23Robin_MaskPosted 2/22/2014 9:18:22 AM
mygoodluckcharm posted...
Jiggy101011 posted...
FadingLights posted...
The problem is, the Sony studios are god-tier and put out world class AAA exclusives. The MS studios are mostly only capable of Kinect stuff and not-so great games. They need to step their game up.


How do you explain why Xbox exclusives sell more than Playstation exclusives?


Sales don't indicate quality

Wii Sport sold more than 80 millions, could you dare that it was better than say, Gears or Halo?


What?

To date, it's the dumbest statement from all people. "Durr Wii Sports sold more than anything" only because it was packaged WITH the Wii. Otherwise, no one would have bought that crap. If anything, the only reason why it was packaged along with it was to advertise the "unique fun" of the controller on the only games where it really was 1:1 at the time without struggling to find a way.
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#24mygoodluckcharmPosted 2/22/2014 9:33:54 AM
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#25HENTAIDOJIPosted 2/22/2014 9:34:56 AM
That's a lot of spin on numbers.lol
Are we talking about total sales of a franchise?


Sales per game. Although you could compare the LTD some franchises to singular iterations.

Infamous as a franchise in its lifetime was outsold by GTAV in 1 month 3 x over.
Killzone same vs CoD every year
Demon Soul vs FFXIII outsold 7:1

Sony promised us their exclusives would make up for the losses of killer apps and they haven't.

Where's their replacement for MGS4? Was it Knack?

How much they sells on average? how much the highest selling game in the franchise has sold? you seem to change the goalpost for each franchise as it suits your needs.

No i've been consistent.

You'd just rather point to PS2 because that was the last time Sony had system sellers. Maybe selling 15M GT3'S 13 years ago is not as relevant as 1.5 million GT6's 3 months ago.

And even without GTA and FF exclusivity PS3 outsold 360 despite having one less year on the market and being $100-200 more expensive

The PS3 is last from Sonys own admission

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_consoles

Also for the record, the PS3 was $399 10 months after launch, $299 since 2009, $250 since 2011, And an average of $235 for the last 18 months.

10 months $100-200 more expensive than 360
12 months $ 50 more expensive
12 months $100 more expensive

vs.

50 months the same price or less expensive than 360.

You don't see us pointing out the 360 has been winning for the last 4 years (and the next 30 at a higher price do you.

and PS4 is destroying the XB1 atm.

That's nice, but where are the system sellers?
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#26amarayaar007(Topic Creator)Posted 2/22/2014 9:42:57 AM
Knack and Killzone have sold more systems than Forza, Ryse and DeR3. So apparently Sony exclusives are really stepping it up. MS exclusives must be losing their appeal...
#27VOLTBREAKERPosted 2/22/2014 9:50:30 AM
Xbone exclusives appear to be selling better

http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/xbox-leading-crossplatform-exclusive-sales/

"Last #NPD fact: 1st/2nd party (exclusives) SW sales for #XboxOne 1.5M units vs. 599K for PS4. Led by Dead Rising, Forza 5 and Ryse’."
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#28ImThe8thWonderPosted 2/22/2014 9:52:47 AM
amarayaar007 posted...
I like how all the troll topics get 100s of relays but pro MS topics get buried without a trace.


I'm sorry, is this topic any better? You're just trying to prove superiority in some way. Should it matter? Why are you contributing to the console war?

Hypocrisy.
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#29Sin_Angelus_Posted 2/22/2014 1:19:31 PM
FadingLights posted...
The problem is, the Sony studios are god-tier and put out world class AAA exclusives. The MS studios are mostly only capable of Kinect stuff and not-so great games. They need to step their game up.


Not really. MS has had a better publisher rating than Sony 3 out of the past 4 years, which basically means their games have received higher ratings overall, check metacritic. Lol @ "god tier".
#30SomboSteelPosted 2/22/2014 1:50:25 PM
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