Does Microsofts new rep system censor freedom of speech?

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2 years ago#61
I don't think a lot of people understand what "Freedom of Speech" is.

It doesn't mean you can literally say whatever you want.
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2 years ago#62
You agreed to an EULA by using their service, just lime here t gamefaqs. If you want to use their service, then you have to adhere to their rules.
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2 years ago#63
Does it censor freedom of speech? Yes. Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? No.
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2 years ago#64
rjsilverthorn posted...
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

People always seem to miss that first bit.


Most people have never read the law. MS policies concerning xbox live clearly have nothing to do with freedom of speech.
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2 years ago#65
MonadAlvis posted...
Does it censor freedom of speech? Yes. Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? No.


You got that completely backwards actually.

Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? Yes. Does it censor freedom of speech? No
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2 years ago#66
aszsith posted...
MonadAlvis posted...
Does it censor freedom of speech? Yes. Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? No.


You got that completely backwards actually.

Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? Yes. Does it censor freedom of speech? No


No they aren't obligated to offer you freedom of speech.
2 years ago#67
For one thing the net is global so you first amendment rights don't necessarily apply unless you're on a wholly US based server - and even then the TOS could override it to some degree - and for another having the right to express an opinion freely is not the same as having the right to bully and abuse other people.
2 years ago#68
TomoEK9 posted...
aszsith posted...
MonadAlvis posted...
Does it censor freedom of speech? Yes. Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? No.


You got that completely backwards actually.

Is Microsoft obligated to offer your freedom of speech on their privately-owned servers? Yes. Does it censor freedom of speech? No


No they aren't obligated to offer you freedom of speech.


A service offered in America is most certainly obligated to follow the laws of the land. Under the First Amendment your freedom of speech is protected and therefore Microsoft is required to not prohibit that freedom. A TOS contract cannot prohibit a right simply through an inclusionary statement without becoming void, nor does the Microsoft Xbox Live TOS attempt to do so.

The issue here is that this situation has nothing to do with the First Amendment in any way.
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2 years ago#70
Legally? No, when it's a private organization they have their right to make their own rules. The first amendment only guarantees that you're protected legally, as in from the government, for what you say, and even then there are exceptions, such a yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater or fighting words.

However, should they be making these rules? Sure, I applaud them for doing so. Just don't act like a d-bag and you'll be fine, so if you're worried about it, maybe you should reevaluate how you conduct yourself.
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