I will never poke fun at X1 & 720p ever again.

#41LapanuiPosted 4/9/2014 4:35:12 AM
dnmt posted...
Lapanui posted...
I think people make such a big deal out of resolution and the frame rate is because of the media. If a developer didn't announce what resolution or frame rate their game ran at, people probably wouldn't even care.

Like lately, The Crew runs at the same resolution and frame rate on both consoles. I don't think anyone really cares, because they are the same. If one were to be higher than the other, the inferior version would get bashed along with the console it is on.

Games aren't about graphics, resolution or frame rate. It's nice to know that your game is going to be running smoothly, but if you weren't given these details, you wouldn't really care.


Going by your logic we would all still be playing on PS2, SNES or what have you. Graphics are a part of progress and we should all expect more from a new machine, doubly so when the last generation lasted so long.


People seem to care more about graphics, resolution and frame rate than the actual game. Just take a look at the response Watch Dogs got after it's supposed downgrade... To most people, graphics was everything.

When people talk about Infamous: Second Son, it just seems to be about the graphics. We have come to a point in gaming where graphics shouldn't be the only thing to talk about.

I'm not saying to revert back to 8-bit, 16-bit, etc., but don't make graphics the main focus. I wish developers would just keep quiet about the graphics, just show off some gameplay and let the gamers decide on what to make of the game and not fixate on numbers.
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#42quincy2000aPosted 4/9/2014 4:44:14 AM
Lapanui posted...
dnmt posted...
Lapanui posted...
I think people make such a big deal out of resolution and the frame rate is because of the media. If a developer didn't announce what resolution or frame rate their game ran at, people probably wouldn't even care.

Like lately, The Crew runs at the same resolution and frame rate on both consoles. I don't think anyone really cares, because they are the same. If one were to be higher than the other, the inferior version would get bashed along with the console it is on.

Games aren't about graphics, resolution or frame rate. It's nice to know that your game is going to be running smoothly, but if you weren't given these details, you wouldn't really care.


Going by your logic we would all still be playing on PS2, SNES or what have you. Graphics are a part of progress and we should all expect more from a new machine, doubly so when the last generation lasted so long.


People seem to care more about graphics, resolution and frame rate than the actual game. Just take a look at the response Watch Dogs got after it's supposed downgrade... To most people, graphics was everything.

When people talk about Infamous: Second Son, it just seems to be about the graphics. We have come to a point in gaming where graphics shouldn't be the only thing to talk about.

I'm not saying to revert back to 8-bit, 16-bit, etc., but don't make graphics the main focus. I wish developers would just keep quiet about the graphics, just show off some gameplay and let the gamers decide on what to make of the game and not fixate on numbers.

As someone whose library consists mostly of multiplatform games, I disagree and hope developers continue to clue us in--along with the great job Digital Foundry is doing to keep us apprised.

For me, it comes down to this--same game, two different systems. Which system will present the product better?
#43dnmtPosted 4/9/2014 4:50:09 AM
quincy2000a posted...
Lapanui posted...
dnmt posted...
Lapanui posted...
I think people make such a big deal out of resolution and the frame rate is because of the media. If a developer didn't announce what resolution or frame rate their game ran at, people probably wouldn't even care.

Like lately, The Crew runs at the same resolution and frame rate on both consoles. I don't think anyone really cares, because they are the same. If one were to be higher than the other, the inferior version would get bashed along with the console it is on.

Games aren't about graphics, resolution or frame rate. It's nice to know that your game is going to be running smoothly, but if you weren't given these details, you wouldn't really care.


Going by your logic we would all still be playing on PS2, SNES or what have you. Graphics are a part of progress and we should all expect more from a new machine, doubly so when the last generation lasted so long.


People seem to care more about graphics, resolution and frame rate than the actual game. Just take a look at the response Watch Dogs got after it's supposed downgrade... To most people, graphics was everything.

When people talk about Infamous: Second Son, it just seems to be about the graphics. We have come to a point in gaming where graphics shouldn't be the only thing to talk about.

I'm not saying to revert back to 8-bit, 16-bit, etc., but don't make graphics the main focus. I wish developers would just keep quiet about the graphics, just show off some gameplay and let the gamers decide on what to make of the game and not fixate on numbers.

As someone whose library consists mostly of multiplatform games, I disagree and hope developers continue to clue us in--along with the great job Digital Foundry is doing to keep us apprised.

For me, it comes down to this--same game, two different systems. Which system will present the product better?


Yep. The same way most people compare the speed of their smartphones or power of their car engines we compare resolution and framerates. It's nice being an informed consumer.
#44axelfooley2k5Posted 4/9/2014 4:52:00 AM
Lapanui posted...
dnmt posted...
Lapanui posted...
I think people make such a big deal out of resolution and the frame rate is because of the media. If a developer didn't announce what resolution or frame rate their game ran at, people probably wouldn't even care.

Like lately, The Crew runs at the same resolution and frame rate on both consoles. I don't think anyone really cares, because they are the same. If one were to be higher than the other, the inferior version would get bashed along with the console it is on.

Games aren't about graphics, resolution or frame rate. It's nice to know that your game is going to be running smoothly, but if you weren't given these details, you wouldn't really care.


Going by your logic we would all still be playing on PS2, SNES or what have you. Graphics are a part of progress and we should all expect more from a new machine, doubly so when the last generation lasted so long.


People seem to care more about graphics, resolution and frame rate than the actual game. Just take a look at the response Watch Dogs got after it's supposed downgrade... To most people, graphics was everything.

When people talk about Infamous: Second Son, it just seems to be about the graphics. We have come to a point in gaming where graphics shouldn't be the only thing to talk about.

I'm not saying to revert back to 8-bit, 16-bit, etc., but don't make graphics the main focus. I wish developers would just keep quiet about the graphics, just show off some gameplay and let the gamers decide on what to make of the game and not fixate on numbers.


there is a lot wrong with this

1. Ubisoft clearly showed somthing to hype the game........dont know why ubisoft being liars has anything to do with this

2. not sure why you bring up infamous....sure it has great graphics but it isnt a bad game. Nice graphics are a plus but you need to understand we just got new systems and people will naturally expect an upgrade from ps3 360

3. the topic at hand doesnt make sense if you read it carefully he made up some stupid story where at one point he had ps4 and xbone then later he said he uses the same system on 2 tvs side by side...liar

4. resolution matters..........people want games to be 1080p 60fps. If you do not think that matters you are crazy. And i dont know the extent of his expieriment but i know the difference between 1080p and 720p.....i will take 1080p every time.....unless the game is 720p 60fps
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#45MiniVirus2Posted 4/9/2014 5:26:19 AM
You have to take into account the quality and specs of either TV. I've seen big, flashy, expensive TVs that look like total crap when gaming in comparison to one with lower specs but a high quality build. I assume this is one of these situations.

Compare a top of the line LG at 720 to one at 1080, or a Samsung, or a Sharp. That's when you'll really notice the difference. Contrast products from the same manufacturer.
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#46Benny-26Posted 4/9/2014 5:27:08 AM
I agree that some people probably can't tell the difference between 1080p and 720p, but more due to the fact that they're not really bothered or looking for it. Kinda like how some people swear by FLAC as opposed to MP3 where as in most people are perfectly happy with MP3.

I personally can see the difference though. FF XIII first got me with it; cutscenes in 1080p, gameplay in 720p, the sharpness and quality on my LG 42" between the two was quite noticable i found.
#47Rebourne007Posted 4/9/2014 5:29:57 AM
Spetsnaz420 posted...
Someone tell him how pixel density works... I don't feel like it


OMG I logged in for the first time in forever just to quote this. Best response ever lol Bravo good sir
#48leatheljPosted 4/9/2014 5:32:30 AM
The resolution whore wars make it stop!! My god I'm just gonna add most of you to ignore
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#49leatheljPosted 4/9/2014 5:33:42 AM
The resolution whore wars make it stop!!! Just gonna add most of you to ignore
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#50Jason_HudsonPosted 4/9/2014 5:47:47 AM
Microsoft loves people like the TC. If everyone actually properly looked at 1080p vs 720p, they would never get away with such an underpowered console.

Though really, the PS4 is underpowered too. My PC from 2 years ago vastly out does it. Oh well.
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